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Unread 01-07-2022, 10:36 AM   #1
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It is a very difficult time for business in general. The business I am involved in sells plumbing and electrical supplies. Common things that we have been buying and selling for decades, such as electrical outlets and rough-in boxes, cannot be obtained from our normal manufacturers. Lead times are ridiculous. We have had to search for new sources and still have difficulty getting certain items. You have to be creative and fluid in order to survive unless you are just setting on a huge pile of cash.
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It is a very difficult time for business in general. The business I am involved in sells plumbing and electrical supplies. Common things that we have been buying and selling for decades, such as electrical outlets and rough-in boxes, cannot be obtained from our normal manufacturers. Lead times are ridiculous. We have had to search for new sources and still have difficulty getting certain items. You have to be creative and fluid in order to survive unless you are just setting on a huge pile of cash.
This to me seems to translate to more and more “Made in China” stuff filling a need… and that’s very sad.





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That certainly has come into play even before this supply chain crisis. For years our trade professionals (plumbers, electricians, building contractors) demanded quality US made products. Our pipe was made Charlotte NC. Plumbing products in Kohler Wisconsin. Electrical devices only US made products such as Square D, Eaton, GE, etc. We have seen an erosion in the demand for quality and now it is all about price. No longer is the quality product demanded, it is now the cheapest price you can get me.

It is very discouraging to say the least.
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Harold, we have been able to procure 12g shells for our inventory on a regular basis. We have plenty in stock. Right now we have Fiocchi and Federal. 20g is hard to come by. We will only sell our shells for use here on our range. If you buy 100, you shoot 100. Members get a price break of $2/box. As for reloading components, I have been buying primers, wads, shot and powder for years. I even got my Spolar cranked up to load 7/8 oz 12g. I am good for years. When they said PB and 7625 were being discontinued I loaded up with 60 lbs of each. Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance!! Heck, I even ordered 5K of the Rio primers from PR and have them for sale in the lodge. At $85/1000 I'm only making maybe $4 on each box of 1000. Sold 2K on the first day. If the rest don't sell I'll just add them to my component stash. Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy.
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here in eastern Pa. Shotgun ammo came in drips and drabs this year. I was fortunate to have a pretty good stockpile of shells in all gauges but only in standard loads which I do not like to shoot in my Parkers. When I did find shells the price was usually inflated especially at the so-called flea markets and even at regular store outlets. Idid have some RST's from last year and was able to get some more this year. I do hope RST stays solvent.
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It is an hour and a half for me to get to any sporting clays ranges, I dont shoot trap except for my friends wobble trap. I do hunt alot, but I bet I have a lifetime supply if that was all I did. I do love the SXS venues, esp Hausmann's to shoot with friends I have made thru this forum. I have about 10 cases of factory 16's in 1 oz loads, and an equal amount of 20's. Also a mixed case of 1 1/8 oz of 4's, 5, and 6's--so I should be good for ever for pheasant. The garage is filled with 3/4 oz 20's and 3/4 and 7/8 oz 16's. Ive got a Mec 600 jr in 12, 16, and 20--would like to find a 28. You might think that the unavailability of ammo might hurt gun prices, but certainly isnt the case.
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