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Pete, is that the day i only brought 103 shells ? yes i missed that 60 yd over head shot we use 7/8th oz 6 's out of our 20 ga, 1 to 1 1/8 ths oz 6's or 7's out of our 12 ga, and 1 1/4 oz 6's out of our 10 ga. all tight ckoked for the most part. boy do the feathers fly on the close ones scott