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Unread 09-23-2021, 09:23 AM   #1
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As I read all the comments on the challenge events, the good, bad and ugly of it all I believe in the past two challenge events (Fox/LeFever in June and Fox/Parker last week) the Fox BOD, with yours truly and Toolman spearheading the effort, have made this event more accessible to the average shooter.

Chuck Bishop's post earlier in this thread concerning the P/LCS challenge at the Southern outlined the feelings of many who shot but had a snowballs chance in hell to make the team. Same old faces in all the same places. I've always wanted to level the playing field and I think we are on the right path.

Evidence: In June at the F/L challenge we had, for the first time on the national stage, a 14yr old and his dad on the same team. At last weeks event we had our first woman and his excellency the "Bishop" on the line shooting for their respective makers.

These challenge events are not to prove which gun is better. We know they are all great guns and many of us own and shoot one or more of each. If these events are to continue and be successful we need to return to the original premise of like minded individuals gathering to shoot their favorite guns and have an equitable chance of "making the team and getting the hat'' IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO. If not, can't we just get together and have fun?
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These challenge events are not to prove which gun is better. We know they are all great guns and many of us own and shoot one or more of each. If these events are to continue and be successful we need to return to the original premise of like minded individuals gathering to shoot their favorite guns and have an equitable chance of "making the team”?

Agreed Daryl, and I think we should endeavor to stick to this premise. However, even in the 1880’s, and later, in the pigeon shoots of yore it was always about the expertise of the shooter and not so much the gun, but if you are a religious reader of John Davis’ quarterly column “Parkers In Pulp” (as I am.) the gun always got billing after the shoot and the respective manufacturers were very quick to claim victory for their “brand.”





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I've told John that the "Parkers in Pulp" series is my favorite read.

Yes, way back then Dean, those shooters were like the athlete "superstars" of today hawking their sponsored products.
The top clay shooters of today are sponsored by the various ammo and gun manufactures as they were back then. Hit a Titlelist3 and you could be just as good as Arnie Palmer.

In most cases the age old axiom "it's not the arrow, it's the Indian" holds true.
Just because Parker, Fox, LCSmith or Lefever wins a challenge event we all understand that they are all great guns but not the best in the field.

So come to these events with your favorite piece or pieces, shoot your best, and feel good that you don't have to shoot like Digweed or Koneski to make the team. Just keep in mind that there will always be a #3 crosser that will level the playing field.
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So come to these events with your favorite piece or pieces, shoot your best, and feel good that you don't have to shoot like Digweed or Koneski to make the team. Just keep in mind that there will always be a #3 crosser that will level the playing field.
Geez, ya miss 5 targets with 4 of them being a simple r to l crosser and you become a has been!!!! Trust me, anyone can be "stuck on stupid"!!
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Geez, ya miss 5 targets with 4 of them being a simple r to l crosser and you become a has been!!!! Trust me, anyone can be "stuck on stupid"!!
Don't sweat it K-Man....when they stop roasting the chestnuts, then it's time to worry!! You got this!!!

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Don't sweat it K-Man....when they stop roasting the chestnuts, then it's time to worry!! You got this!!!

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Geez, ya miss 5 targets with 4 of them being a simple r to l crosser and you become a has been!!!! Trust me, anyone can be "stuck on stupid"!!
Just yanking your chain, but I know you know that. I did list you after Digweed so you got that going for you.

That #2 gave some shooters a fit. Me included.
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But Digweed shoots "Eurotrash"!!
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But Digweed shoots "Eurotrash"!!
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Geez, ya miss 5 targets with 4 of them being a simple r to l crosser and you become a has been!!!! Trust me, anyone can be "stuck on stupid"!!
Mike, I whole heartedly agree. The super sporting event at your shoot last July I thoroughly enjoyed. Some of the targets on the 12ga course were, as some would say, were out of this world, or as I would say "came" from out of this world. All in all even though I did not break into the trophies, I enjoyed the entire shoot. The way I look at the competition part is just step up to the plate and throw your hat in the ring and give it a whirl. Either way trophy or not I enjoy myself.
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