Twist vs. Plain Twist

[Drew Hause]

Thanks Dave.
Unfortunately, in that there was no American, European and British Union for the Standardization of Nomenclature of Damascus and Twist Barrels makers could name their barrels whatever they wished, and did, often creatively
Pretty much no chance that Remington's "London", Lefever's and Baker's "Best London Damascus Twist" or Parker's "Fine English Twist" tubes were sourced in England.



"London" is Damascus Twist
"Birmingham", "Ruban" and "Band" are...uh...some other kinds of twist

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...sIjmr8uy8/edit

And according to Greener VERY little (true) Stub Twist was produced in England after the 1860s as horseshoe stubs became increasingly difficult to obtain

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Drew Hause

Thanks Dave.
Unfortunately, in that there was no American, European and British Union for the Standardization of Nomenclature of Damascus and Twist Barrels makers could name their barrels whatever they wished, and did, often creatively
Pretty much no chance that Lefever's and Baker's "Best London Damascus Twist" or Parker's "Fine English Twist" tubes were sourced in England.

So Drew, where would they have been sourced... Belgium? They weren't sourced here... or were they?





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[Drew Hause]

Parker could have made it easier for us 120 years later

Fall 1898 Sears catalog the PH has "Fine twist"



Catalog No. 112 1902 the PH now has "fine English twist"

[Drew Hause]

re: sources for the "rough forged tubes" used by every U.S. double gun maker

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Ve9ur3mCo/edit

https://docs.google.com/document/pub...eFell8GsAWd-KI

Parker
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...YvzD18i3c/edit

[Drew Hause]

This doesn't help either
Clearly Damascus Twist and labeled "Twist"

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Drew Hause

Catalog No. 112 1902 the PH now has "fine English twist"

And could this be the same stuff just four years later?... pretty likely but under a different name.




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[Drew Hause]

Parker 1874 Price List



Simmons Hdw. 1878. Plain Steel replaced with Plain Twist and the Grade 6 is added with "Finest Damascus"