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Unread 03-21-2021, 08:10 PM   #1
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I was fortunate to have lived in West Hollywood in the mid-1950s to early 1060s. On rare occasions my dad would take me to Kerr's to look at firearms and such and maybe even catch a glimpse at a movie star or celebrity - which wasn't all that rare in Hollywood in those days. I was pretty young and I never thought too much about it again until I purchased a Browning Pigeon Grade Superposed 20ga two-barrel set from a collector in New York. I received a letter from Browning indicating that it had been sold by Kerr's in August 1960...one year before my family moved from California. I have no idea who purchased the gun new as the letter didn't specify. I have the invoice number and I'd love to know but it seems the records from Kerr's are no longer available. I've often wondered who the original owner might be.

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Okay Bobby - inquiring minds want to know.... "Czar's two-barrel soft case - he shopped there too." "He" who?...what Czar?... what gun?





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Well, Dean, there was this story, started in a newspaper article in a Meriden newspaper before the war...........Oh, heck, it's to much information for you to absorb. I assume you are new to this Parker business. Joking of course.
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Well, Dean, there was this story, started in a newspaper article in a Meriden newspaper before the war...........Oh, heck, it's to much information for you to absorb. I assume you are new to this Parker business.
Okay Bill, I'll take the bait... I know about The Romanof Czar's Parker no. 168304 but I wasn't aware of the colonel who ordered it or the Czar himself ever shopping at Kerr's. Further, I wasn't aware 168304 was made as a two-barrel set, or maybe I had forgotten. Maybe someone could fill us in on the details.

Maybe it was the New York gentleman who had the gun stashed away for so many decades was the one who shopped at Kerr's?



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I'm also curious as to the Czar/Kerr connection.
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...... Founded by transplanted Chicagoan Alexander H. Kerr (b. 1913) in the mid-1930s.....
The Russian Revolution was a period of political and social revolution across the territory of the Russian Empire,
commencing with the abolition of the monarchy in 1917 and concluding in 1922 with the Bolshevik establishment of the Soviet Union.

Ok, it's going to be difficult to prove that the Czar actually shopped there which suggests a possible whimsical exaggeration on my part that the plastic handled Naugahyde two barreled "Kerr's" case of which I am the current caretaker, could ever have belonged to Czar Nickolas.

I feel like Orson Wells.
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I still believe the whole Czar's Parker business was in Wilber Parker's imagination to market an A1-Special that was lingering in stock.
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I still believe the whole Czar's Parker business was in Wilber Parker's imagination to market an A1-Special that was lingering in stock.
If so, it was a great strategy, don't you think?
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I still have a thick 3 ring binder with my Don Criswell mailings. I missed a bunch of good guns over the years.
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