John, Not to get off the Springer topic, but the two Pointers in my life were NSTRA trialers. The first one got my toe in the trialing fields and waters. He got a couple of placements before I was the dropout. He was my best hunting dog. Even NSTRA, which is an attempt at hunting conditions, becomes repetitive and styleized. The next one is a 2 year old whom I am having a great time hunting with now and is learning more with every hunt. He was a hard core trialer's reject, a little soft for trialing, but a great companion.
Fred
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