Yes! Thank you Jay. I also think that arm length is not as important as the vertical distance between where the stock nests into the shoulder and one's eye plane. I personally like the Churchill method where you don't drop your head at all when you mount the gun, but keep it upright instead, following the target all the while. I'm only 5' 4-3/4" these days, having 'shrunk' 1.75" over the years so now fully qualify as an official 'sawed off runt of the litter/Neanderthaloid', but I like guns with 2-3/4" to even 3" of DAH because when I bring them up I don't have to drop my head one bit to have a perfect view right down the rib... I also don't have to try to look through the greasy upper left out-of-focus corner of my glasses as I do when I drop my head way down to the stock of a flat dimension gun. The biggest thing I have to adjust to is making sure to blank overhead oncoming and any rising bird or I'll shoot way behind them. If I can see the bird when I shoot those kind of shots I'm guaranteed a miss. When I start missing, I stop and think "what would 'Robert do here?' then get my feet right, my hands right, my arms and head right and try again and I always do better immediately. Back to these basics works every time. I'd like to see a list of measurements folks can make of the distance between their shoulder pocket and eye plane, their height, and arm length somehow. I think the preferred LOP may have more to do with ones neck length and head confirmation/size than anything else. I just stood in front of a mirror and measured 10" from the approx middle of my shoulder pocket and my eye plane. Try it; is that long for short guy like me??
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