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Unread 08-31-2020, 03:02 PM   #61
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Man I if I keep hearing all this skeet stuff I’m going to end up sending a K-32 and a VH 12 to Kolar for full length fitted skeet tubes .
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Recoil....

It’s all good, and the 12 will almost always beat the smaller gauges by a little margin. Skeet averages across the board usually prove it. However, I don’t see it making any significant difference at typical upland shooting 30 yards and under.
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It’s all good, and the 12 will almost always beat the smaller gauges by a little margin. Skeet averages across the board usually prove it. However, I don’t see it making any significant difference at typical upland shooting 30 yards and under.
I saw a good many years when Bender would go clean for the entire year with the 20 and or 28 . While I don’t disagree with you it’s hard to beat perfection . 1000x1000 in ANY gauge is pretty special in my opinion .
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Yikes!
I did explain that he could shoot 2 3/4" cartridges out of his gun just fine and pointed him to the 1200 fps 1 ounce Herters loads on sale. But seriously, he just did not know.
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Another point to consider is a small chip off a clay bird is a dead bird but in hunting live birds that will usually be a lost bird or a wounded one. You should always try and have enough pattern density to kill whatever bird you are after. To me at least you can't compare 12ga vs 410 average at skeet , you are shooting at a known target that is thrown at your call at a known speed and path and one that you have shot at many times. Real birds do none of that.
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I just use a 2" 12 (5 1/2 lbs) in the early season and switch to a 2 1/2" 12 (6 lbs 5 oz) in the later season. I'm hunting pheasants (with a bonus quail now and then) over setters so the shots aren't long.



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I was in Cabelas the other day, looking at ammo, and a guy and his son were wandering around looking confused. I asked him what he was looking for and he said, "3 inch shells."

I asked, "for what?" and he replied, "For dove shooting. My gun says 3" on the barrel."

There's not enough mentoring going on out there.
I'm shooting 3` shells in my gun on opening day doves. The load is 11/16ths of an ounce of 7 1/2s

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20 gauge Bernardelli for quail, 16 ga Poli for everything else upland, sxs of course. I also have a 16 gauge Belgian hammer gun that’s a blast on quail. Not easy but a lot of fun. In the 16 for quail, I use 2 1/2 RST #8, spreaders when they have them.
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Most of my upland hunting is for Phez and Sharpies. My gauge of choice has been the 16. My favorite gun to hunt with is a well worn but cared for tight as a tick 1921 VHE on a 1 frame with 32" barrels which weighs in at 6-12. Heavy by most standards but I enjoy it in the open prairie. Bought it from a Gent at the Southern when I spied him putting it in the rack and inquired. He said he owned the gun for near 40 years and it had been a favorite of his, one he could always shoot well, he said he shot it like crap that day. I asked if he would entertain selling it. His reply, not most days but today ain't like most days
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Harry and I are shooting 16's for our first dove hunt. Both Parkers.
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