I shoot some of the 3 1/2 inch shells in the over and under 12 ga I bought with those 43 1/2 inch barrels it weighs 12 lbs..it still kicks pretty good...I use those gage mates and those skeeter mates in my 10 ga guns with the 1 1/8 ounce 12 ga loads they are a pleasure to shoot....not much recoil in a 3 frame gun 10 ga weighing 10 lbs or so... I even use the gage mates in the 8 ga. using 12 ga loads...wish I had a pair of 10 ga to use in the 8 ga... I seen a gage mate the other dayto shoot 10 ga in a 4 gauge...charlie
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