Federal Game Shok 12ga 2 3/4" in 1926 Trojan

[Joe from MO]

BTW, ordered the Manson Wall thickness gauge from Brownells....

I have enough vintage shotguns I'll have some use for it, and keep it with me when considering the purchase of new guns.

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Joseph Sheerin

BTW, ordered the Manson Wall thickness gauge from Brownells....

I have enough vintage shotguns I'll have some use for it, and keep it with me when considering the purchase of new guns.

Joseph, there's a "knack" to measuring with the Manson Wall thickness gauge. The directions provided are hard to follow, but after reading some suggestions on this site, I have been able to get the same numbers from both my Manson and Hosford gauges. You'll be glad you invested the money, but be sure you use it correctly.

[J. A. EARLY]

From a couple of sites. I have always heard this rule and I follow it.

"According to W.W. Greener in his book "The Gun" a shotgun should weigh 96 times the shot charge.

Or 96 X 1 1/8oz.= 108 oz. = 6lb. 12 oz., that is for a upland bird gun.

For ducks a much heavier gun will be wanted."

"Greener wrote that gun should weigh 96 times its intended shot charge to properly absorb the recoil. According to Greener, therefore, a 20 gauge firing 7/8 once of shot should weigh 5 ¼ pounds while a 20 made for an ounce of shot should weigh 6 pounds. A 12 for 1 1/8 ounces of shot would weigh about 6 ¾ pounds; a gun for 1 ¼ ounce loads (which were considered quite heavy in Greener’s day) would weigh 7 ½."

Of course this is for a gun in good shape. All of the guns I shoot have had the stock removed and the head checked, oil removed if it exists, and repaired if necessary.

[Joe from MO]

Originally Posted by Jerry Harlow

From a couple of sites. I have always heard this rule and I follow it.

"According to W.W. Greener in his book "The Gun" a shotgun should weigh 96 times the shot charge.

Or 96 X 1 1/8oz.= 108 oz. = 6lb. 12 oz., that is for a upland bird gun.

For ducks a much heavier gun will be wanted."

"Greener wrote that gun should weigh 96 times its intended shot charge to properly absorb the recoil. According to Greener, therefore, a 20 gauge firing 7/8 once of shot should weigh 5 ¼ pounds while a 20 made for an ounce of shot should weigh 6 pounds. A 12 for 1 1/8 ounces of shot would weigh about 6 ¾ pounds; a gun for 1 ¼ ounce loads (which were considered quite heavy in Greener’s day) would weigh 7 ½."

Of course this is for a gun in good shape. All of the guns I shoot have had the stock removed and the head checked, oil removed if it exists, and repaired if necessary.

My Trojan weighs in at 7lb, 10oz. It's a tank, and heaviest SxS I own, the NID I have with same length barrels weighs exactly 7lbs.