Help to identify this Remington

[davidboyles]

That's a winner I just aquired a really nice original CE. Looking at Semmers book I believe you have a nice D grade which are rare. Made from 1894 to say 1907 hard to tell according to Semmers book. and engraved by some of the best. Possibly including Joseph Loy who in my mind was one of the best engravers ever. Let me know if you ever decide to part with it. You you can borrow Semmers book there is quite a bit of info on this model. It is a considerable step up from the C grade. My shoots doves like a dream although they are heavy!!

[Bill Murphy]

Chuck, is that your gun, and, do you need a Semmer book? Let me know.

[Researcher]

The gun appears to be a D-Grade, DE-Grade if it has ejectors. "Normally" the grade is stamped on the left watertable --

121252 DEO-Grade 09 watertable.jpg

or on the "bridge" if the gun has what Charles Semmer referred to as the "bridge frame" --

101315 BE-Grade 12-ga 07.jpg

I have seen a handful of Remington Hammerless Doubles that I would consider to be D-/DE-/DEO-Grades that were not stamped.

A DEO-Grade would have "Ordnance Steel" barrels --

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Normally 12-gauge Remington Hammerless Doubles were made for 2 5/8 inch shells. If ordered for longer shells, it was stamped on the bottom of the barrels just forward of the barrel flats --

121252 DEO-Grade 07 2 7-8 inch chamber marking.jpg

According to Charles' serial number chronology 110960 would be from early 1899.

[Pa SxS]

Thanks for the info. Not my gun yet! Any idea as to rarity and wild ballpark value assuming good original, mechanical, and physical condition?

[Pa SxS]

What are the highest grades that Remington made in this model?

[Researcher]

The highest grade offered from the introduction of the Remington Hammerless Double in the October 1894 Remington Arms Co. catalog was E-/EE-Grade in 12- or 10-gauge,

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In 1897 the 16-gauge was added to the offerings, and Ordnance Steel as an option in all grades and Remington Steel barrels for the A-quality guns.

In 1902 the Remington Special was added at the top of the line --

Remington Special, 1902 Remington Arms Co. catalog.jpeg

1908-09 catalog --

Remington Special, 1908-09 Remington Arms Co. catalog pg 10.jpeg

Remington Special, 1908-09 Remington Arms Co. catalog pg 11.jpeg

[Anthony Pilotti]

It is a 12ga. 28" I believe the butt plate was right, will need to double check that