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Unread 11-22-2019, 09:01 AM   #51
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With 437.5 grains to the ounce I sure don’t see a problem shooting those little 228.5 grain slugs in a decent 28 bore Parker.

And some choke should improve accuracy over a cylinder bore barrel.

What fps are you expecting from them?

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I try not to go much over 1100-1150 in anything anymore. However I’ve started using W572 a little with 28 buckshot and it might be up to 1250ish .
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I was thinking a higher velocity (without increading the pressure too much) would improve penetration.... but I don't know how it would affect accuracy.





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I was thinking a higher velocity (without increading the pressure too much) would improve penetration.... but I don't know how it would affect accuracy.
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Well we’ll see I loaded six with 16 grains of W572 and six with 14 grains of SR7625 , these are the same powder charges I used with 3/4-7/8 ounce loads of buckshot . The Claybuster AA-HS wads are tight at the base going thru the chokes . The slug alone rattled thru the barrel and at the front end of the shot cup it seems snug but not overly tight . To keep it at the top I needed to put two 1/8” 410 card wads in the bottom of the shot cup and of course I filled the hollow base with hot melt glue to keep the 410 wads and or the bottom of the shot cup from sticking in the hollow base . Same protocol I follow in the other gauges with these Lyman style pellet slugs .

On the velocity pentration issue I personally feel 1200 or 100 or so less should be fine as I'll most likely not shoot at a deer over thirty yards provided of course that they make some semblance of a decent group . I'll try then at 25 yards and if satisfied I'll try them at 50 so I know and if they do well at 50 I might stretch the range out to 35 or 40 yards but that's about it . I'm actually hoping one barrel does very well with the slugs and a good POI vs POA and then have the #1 or #2 buckshot in the other barrel . Ideally I've gotten so I like the slug in the right barrel and buckshot in the left . But it doesn't always work that way , just recently the top lever grade 1 10 gauge 2 barrel set with the 26" barrel seems to like buckshot better in the right barrel and the slug I'm messing with for the 10 better in the left barrel . So it ain't always the same by any means . But this stuff gives me a reason to keep waging war so to speak against the "Man Eating Whitetail of the Old Dominion" . I suspect I could live to be 287 and if still able to get up a tree yadda yadda yadda I'd still have plenty other stuff I wanted to try .
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Shot twelve rounds of slugs today six with W572 and six with SR7625 . The best at 25 yards was the right barrel with SR7625 .
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The W572 both were shot on same box at different times .
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Need to shoot some more buck pushed with W572 and SR7625 to decide which will be in the left barrel . Then try and kill a deer with this thing this season .
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No one came in the shop “overly” bothering me and I just got finished up ! Twenty five of each buckshot and the slug load DONE !
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Looks like a great 28 Craig. Just the way I like to find them, a good honest gun. What's the barrel length and have you measured the bores and chokes yet?
Me too - a great 26" VH PG SFE HRBP 0-frame surfaced at our local gun show over the weekend at an asking price of $8900. It went home with the guy that brung it after numerous tire-kickers got done with it ....("Isn't the bird in the dog's mouth on the buttplate supposed to face to the left??.....).
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Sitting in the wad, they almost look like a sabot. What kind of clearance do you have between slug diameter are bore? Lists of short barreled 28ga guns we’re still choked tight and I’d hate to have you bulge your barrels.
This is so scary!! Slugs "rattling down" the barrels remind me of the
time we didn't swage the smaller white potatoes we fired out of our "Spud Cannon" (a Rube Goldberg device resembling a recoiless rifle, made up from PVC plumbing pipes and joints of different diameters. (Think mini-clones of "Pumpkin Chunkin" ordnance).

The chamber was made up from a common PVC toilet union reducer collar going from 3 1/2 to 2 1/2 inch, mated with a 4 foot PVC 2 1/2 inch barrel. The toilet union had a threaded plug in the rear; you charged the cannon for each shot with a robust spray of WD-40, hairspray, oven cleaner, or G-96 Gunscrubber (about a 5-second burst, then screwed the cap on tight).

Ignition was a common gas grill piezo lighter fixture, epoxied into the chamber wall. The muzzle of the barrel was reverse-chamfered (sharpened) with a sander to a sharp edge. Potatoes of just over-diameter muzzle size were swage-fit (hammered) into the barrel so they fit tight and the excess shaved off to fall away.

With proper propellant charge and safe line of fire, this thing would take a hardball-sized chunk of bark down to moist tissue off of the biggest tree we could aim at within 30-35 yards.

The time we didn't pay attention to excess pulp, the forward end of the chamber area (think forcing cone) and the rest of the barrel disintegrated into 2-3 ft. plastic shards upon detonation. Apparently that someone had used carburetor cleaner for the charge didn't help (loaded with MEK, Ether & acetone!).

Be careful!! Hate to see those Vulcan tubes turned into wind chimes!
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I’ve got the little 28 in a gun sock inside the gun boot on my ATV . It’ll go along in the morning with my 6mm-06 . Just to make myself feel okay about taking it I tried three slugs out the right at 25 yards and a load of #1 buck out the left also at 25 yards today before putting it in the gun boot.
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