Arms and Cycle Works

[Researcher]

Only Parker/Remington seemed to normally put the tighter (Skeet Out) choke in the right barrel on Skeet Guns. Ithaca, Fox and Winchester put the open choke in the right barrel. The earliest Remington Model 32 Skeet Guns were improved cylinder in both barrels but by the next year they were Remington's SKEET choke in both, essentially the same as Winchester's WS-1 or Fox's Skeet Cylinder. So, why did Remington put that tighter choke in their Parker Skeet Guns?

[C.O.B.]

My VHE 16 skeet gun is choked .010 in both barrels. Somewhat tight I think.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

Only Parker/Remington seemed to normally put the tighter (Skeet Out) choke in the right barrel on Skeet Guns. Ithaca, Fox and Winchester put the open choke in the right barrel. The earliest Remington Model 32 Skeet Guns were improved cylinder in both barrels but by the next year they were Remington's SKEET choke in both, essentially the same as Winchester's WS-1 or Fox's Skeet Cylinder. So, why did Remington put that tighter choke in their Parker Skeet Guns?

Typically, a shooter was used to shooting the open choked right barrel / front trigger in a game shooting situation first...
In Skeet shooting the first target was the outgoer (Skeet-1) and so as to not confuse the shooter, the right barrel, fired first with the forward trigger, had the tighter(Skeet-1) choke and the rear trigger/left barrel had the more open choke for the incomer.
I know this contradicts your earlier post of how Skeet was originally shot, but it's the only explanation that makes any sense to me.





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[Pay Dirt]

I measured the bores using a Galazan gauge.
Cylinder left / Modified right.
I'll get a proper decimal measurement on it next week when it's out of California Gun Jail .

[Bill Murphy]

One, Parker did not have skeet 1 and skeet 2. Winchester had skeet 1 and skeet 2 and they didn't care which one was shot first and at what bird. In skeet shooting, only doubles are shot outgoer first. In singles, the incomer was shot first on stations 5, 6, and 7. If a single trigger gun was used, the shooter would have to work the selector or shoot one barrel at a time. At some point, they are so confused that they would miss or get caught with an empty chamber. The reality is that high average skeet shooters didn't care which barrel they were shooting. They could hit the bird with either barrel. "Selector shooters" in early skeet are like sporting clays shooters today who change their chokes at every station. They are not very good shots. By the way, skeet 1 is not the tighter barrel, it is the more open barrel. Dean, in early skeet, the outgoer was the longer bird, and would be shot with the more choked barrel, skeet 2 in a Winchester or skeet out in a Parker. In today's skeet world, both birds are shot at the same range if the shooter is competent.

[Dean Romig]

Those interested in Parker Skeet guns and Skeet chokes and their orientation to left or right barrels should read pages 410, 411 and 412 in “The Parker Story.”






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[Pay Dirt]

Windy and smokey here in SoCal.
Our club is in the Angeles National Forest about 20 miles north of the big fire here in California.
Not a perfect day for a .410, but glad to be out with a new gun.
Both bores measured .411 and are slightky jug choked. .005 left / .015 right , IC / IMod.
Got in 2 rounds of Skeet, a 20 and a 22. Lets call it a good start.

[charlie cleveland]

good even patterns....charlie

[Dean Romig]

Excellent tight patterns. That guns a killer out to 35 yards!





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