Lifter 20 ga.

[Hammer Gun]

We need to make that happen, 20 gauge hammer guns are really rare, you are fortunate to own one! Gary

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Gary Carmichael Sr

We need to make that happen, 20 gauge hammer guns are really rare, you are fortunate to own one! Gary

While it wasnt a Parkers , I went into a class 3 dealers shop about a week ago .
He had a Bakers 20 gauge hammer gun with 30" barrels . I know next to nothing about Bakers or 20 gauges but he was asking 999$ . The gun locked up tight like a vault . He also had a Thomas Baker I think it was that was a 20 ga hammer gun with 30" barrels for the same price but was off the face . Both had damascus barrels . First time ive ever held a small gauge hammer gun felt really good in the hands though .

[Bill Murphy]

I assume the Baker was not an American gun.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

I assume the Baker was not an American gun.

From what I read they were made in NY .
I know some of the guys on another site like the Baker black beauty which was a 16 ga sxs they made . Wasnt Baker owned by LC Smith or was that a different Baker ? It was a neat 20 gauge felt very long on such a small frame with those 30" barrels . Not sure if it was worth 999$ im not a 20 gauge shooter . Ive only shot 3 different 20 gauges a Remington spartan 20 , a Benelli nova 20 and a Purdey 20 ga . If I wasnt saving for a Parker id might buy it .
All the 20 gauge hammer sxs ive seen for sale are alot more than that Baker .
At first I thought it was a 28 gauge but I dont think the 28 gauge was around that far back ? probably 1880s-1890s.

[C.O.B.]

Baker was an American company. A friend of mine has several hammerless guns of varying quality in grades. They were well made but not on the same level as Parker or Fox.
20ga hammer guns are indeed special. I have a Boss thumb break with 30 inch barrels thats fun to shoot. It's tightly choked and I'd like to find another one thats more open.

[Craig Budgeon]

Baker Gun and Forging Co. never offered a 20ga. gun. H.D. Folsom who bought out Baker in 1919 offered a 20ga. hammerless gun of inferior quality. I'm sure your Baker hammer gun is English. Geoffrey Boothroyd's book Shotguns and Gunsmiths may provide additional info.

[mobirdhunter]

There are at least 2 Baker gun makers in the UK -- F. P. Baker, and F. T. Baker. I have a nice F. P. Baker gun. I'm sure there are more since there is a Baker patent not associated with these two makers as I recall...but, hey, I'm old and don't always recall correctly.

In any event, a nice, well made English 20 hammer gun should take a bird or two.

[Milton C Starr]

I had planned to go last weekend to take some pictures of it but I had forgotten we was having a baby shower for my little nephew whos due any day now .

Perhaps soon I can go and get some pictures . One of the Baker guns had a dolls head and the other was a bar style . Very different looking guns , the one of interest had what I think is called stars and stripes damascus ? Though American and English doubles both used that pattern .

[Mills]

Yeah, you get in trouble for missing that stuff

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Mills Morrison

Yeah, you get in trouble for missing that stuff

Especially when its the first grand child out of the 3 of us brothers lol .


I might be able to get up there this weekend to get some pictures of it .
If I had known 20 ga hammer guns weren't that common I would have taken some at the time .