My 1901 16 gauge Parker

[Dean Romig]

Well Shane, from your pictures it looks like both guns have been "rode hard" to the point of having been abused. The sixteen certainly looks to be in better condition than the twelve. In fact, I wouldn't even attempt to shoot the twelve at all. The barrels are in poor shape and the ribs are obviously seperating.
The stock on the sixteen presents a couple of questions - one being the Trojan buttplate... another being the lack of a shield in the stock where a grade 1 would have had one.... third being the capped pistol grip if it is a Trojan stock but it doesn't have Trojan checkering.... and finally, if it is a replacement stock, to my mind it is a Parker Bros. stock... very interesting. The serial number 105322 is not in the book so we don't know the original barrel length but it appears to have cut barrels too. Probably down from 26" judging by your choke measurements.

[D. Shane Burton]

I don't have the guns with me as I write this, but do you think the 12 and 16 buttplates could be switched? The guns have been together forever.

About the barrel length--I wonder why someone would only cut two inches off? I'm assuming the sighting bead would have to be removed and the mid-rib drilled and tapped to relocate it? I've seen other pictures of guns that look about the same in albums on here, but they never mention that the barrels have been cut down. I would think these should be cylinder bore if they're cut down, but the one that is perfectly round matches the chart for Improved Cylinder--how is this possible? Sorry, I'm new at this.

Thanks for the feedback. It's greatly appreciated.

Shane

[D. Shane Burton]

First off, thanks, Bruce.

Now back to something Dean posted:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Well Shane, from your pictures it looks like both guns have been "rode hard" to the point of having been abused. The sixteen certainly looks to be in better condition than the twelve. In fact, I wouldn't even attempt to shoot the twelve at all. The barrels are in poor shape and the ribs are obviously seperating.
The stock on the sixteen presents a couple of questions - one being the Trojan buttplate... another being the lack of a shield in the stock where a grade 1 would have had one.... third being the capped pistol grip if it is a Trojan stock but it doesn't have Trojan checkering.... and finally, if it is a replacement stock, to my mind it is a Parker Bros. stock... very interesting. The serial number 105322 is not in the book so we don't know the original barrel length but it appears to have cut barrels too. Probably down from 26" judging by your choke measurements.

Dean concerning the stock issues, since I'm not familiar with them, did any of the Trojan stocks issued have the capped pistol grip and lack of shield? I'm thinking the original stock may have been completely replaced with a Trojan stock at some point.

I know they'll never be great examples, but I'm hoping the 16 ga can be restored to be a shooter again.

Thanks for any insights,
Shane

[Bill Murphy]

Maybe if you tell us how much you paid, and maybe to whom, we could tell you if you got hurt, and if so, how badly.