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I was in Bob Summer's shop this summer. How anyone can turn out such works of art in such a cluttered, dusty shop is beyond me. Bits and pieces of rods scattered about - some new production, some old rods in for repair. How he keeps it straight is a mystery. Cast one of his 4 wt rods. If I wasn't so impatient, and unwilling to wait 3 years for delivery, I'd sure like to put one of them in my rod rack