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Unread 07-06-2018, 03:36 PM   #1
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Nice graphic on the shot shell box's. J.J.
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10 20g ordered about 1913 for "Ajax Heavies" by United States Cartridge Co.??
https://books.google.com/books?id=Dy...J&pg=PT235&lpg

Ajax were available in 1912
https://books.google.com/books?id=CX...J&pg=PA469&lpg

Ajax Heavies were not introduced until 1923; Climax Heavies 1927.
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Black shells from west coast
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Lots of 12g Selby Load boxes here, and it appears they would be loaded in any case and with any powder
http://shotshellboxes.com/OnlinePric...a&smod=highest
a few 20s
http://shotshellboxes.com/OnlinePric...a&smod=highest

Selby Loads in 1913
https://books.google.com/books?id=UM...=PA90-IA16&lpg
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My 20 gauge VH #153,333 was ordered to shoot 3 dram, 1 ounce loads. However, I don't remember seeing a box of these shells.
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I've never seen a catalog offering these loads, but I have a box of them --

Arrow Express Lacquered Kleanbore 20-gauge 3-inch Label Load.jpeg

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I hope this is not a dumb question but were people shooting these 3 inch shells in their short chambers, just to get a better seal with the "better" and more wadding?

How often do you see 20 and 16 gauge guns with 3 inch chambers during this time period?
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