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found a 20 ga round ball load but it aint mine yet its loaded differant from the other round ball loads i have seen in paper hulls...all the loads i have a cut out in the wad over the ball..this 20 ga load has a wad with no cutout on it the wad says round ball load 5/8 ounce on it..it is a green remington express long range anyway maybe i will get it its part of the fun of looking....charlie