Parker, Smith, Rem, Go Head-To-Head, 1896

[charlie cleveland]

sounds like old age and going to a nurseing home were not a problem in those years....charlie

[Drew Hause]

We do know the guns chosen by the competitors at the 1895 & 1896 GAH

1895 (3rd) Grand American Handicap at Live Birds
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL2504015.pdf
Won by J.G. Messner using a Parker; the first GAH win with an American maker's gun.
Guns: Greener – 17; Capt. “Jack” Brewer, Capt. A.W. Money, E.D. Fulford, J.A.R. Elliott
Smith – 11; Apgar & Lindsley
Parker – 6; O.R. Dickey, Noel Money, A.W. DuBray
Winchester Repeater – 2; Rolla Heikes
Francotte – 7, Scott – 3, Lefever – 2, Purdey - 2

Capt. DuBray on Messner’s victory
https://books.google.com/books?id=GE...AJ&pg=PA31&lpg



1896
O. R. Dickey, of Boston. Mass., used a very handsome Parker Bros, hammerless gun, of the Pigeon model, and his load consisted of 50 grains, or about 3 1/2 drams by measure, of American “E.C.” powder, 1 trap wad, one 3/8 inch pink felt, one 1/4-inch pink edge, and 1 1/8 ounce of No. 7 chilled shot in the United States Cartridge Co.'s “Rapid” shells, 2 3/4 inches in length.

Sim Glover, of Rochester, winner of second place stood on the 30 yds. mark in the handicap, using a Parker hammerless gun, loaded with 50 grains of Schultze powder and 1 1/4 ounces of No. 7 shot in Trap shell.

Guns: Smith - 23, Greener - 21, Parker - 16, Francotte - 10, Lefever - 7, 4 Scotts; 4 Winchesters; Remington, Purdey & Colt - 2 each; Lang, Hollenbeck, Westley Richards, Grant, and Lancaster - 1 each.
http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL2701022.pdf

[Drew Hause]

5th (1897) GAH Elkwood Park, Long Branch, N. J., March 23, 24 and 25.
Thomas A. Marshall, of Keithsburg, Ill., won in a four man shoot-off using a Cashmore.
Dr. W.F. Carver, Chicago, 32 yds.; Cashmore
Chas. Grimm, Clear Lake, Ia., 32 yds.; Smith
J.A.R. Elliott, Kansas City. 32 yds.; Winchester
W.D. Stannard. Chicago, 27 yds.; Smith
J.S. Fanning, San Francisco, 29 1/2 yds.; Smith
J.M. Browning, Salt Lake City, 29 1/2 yds.; Winchester
Captain A. W. Money, Oakland, N. J., 28 yds.; Greener
W.R. Crosby, Batavia, N. Y., Baker
Fred Gilbert, Spirit Lake, Iowa. 30 yds.; Smith
Guns: Smith- 31, Parker- 23, Greener- 21, Francotte- 12, Cashmore- 11, Scott- 9, Winchester- 8, Purdey- 5, Lefever- 3

1898 Grand American Handicap at Live Birds
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL3102016.pdf
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL3102018.pdf
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL3102019.pdf
Guns: Parker- 56, Smith- 42, Greener- 20, Francotte- 17, Remington- 11, Cashmore- 9, Lefever- 8, Scott- 8, Daly- 6, Winchester- 5, Colt- 4, Purdey- 2, Richards- 2, Churchill, Baker, Hollenbeck, Forehand and Stannard- 1 each.

Note Remington Ordnance Steel was introduced in 1897 for the 1894 Hammerless Double and the 1898 GAH was the first with a significant Remington use; and was won by E.D. Fulford with a Remington



The CEO was not promoted as a "Pigeon Gun" for a few more years; this 1902 courtesy of David Noreen




1899 Grand American Handicap at Live Birds
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL3305013.pdf
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL3305014.pdf
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL3305016.pdf
Guns: Parker- 78, Smith- 56, Greener- 31, Francotte- 24, Winchester- 12, Remington- 11, Cashmore- 10, Lefever- 6, Purdey- 5, Scott- 6, Colt- 4, Daly- 3, Stannard- 3, Boss- 2, Richards- 2, Baker- 2, Forehand, Syracuse, Clabrough, Renette, Abbey, Spencer & Webley- 1 each.
Smith: C.M. Grimm, Charles Young, W.B. Leffingwell, Fred Gilbert (Gilbert switched to a Parker after the 1899 GAH), F.P. Stannard, J.J. Sumpter, J.S. Fanning, Fred Quimby, J.J. Hallowell (U.M.C. Co.), “Wanda” and Milt Lindsley, Wanda Shattuck, Fen Cooper, H.C. Hershey (Hazard Powder Co.)
Parker: Neaf Apgar, John Parker (Peters Cartridge Co.), Wilbur F. Parker, A.W. duBray, H.D. Kirkover, H.E. Buckwalter, L.W. Stoddard, Harold Money, C.W. Budd, J.D. Gay, George Loomis, O.R. Dickey, Ed Bingham, R. Merrill, C.M. Powers, Howard Ridge (Laflin & Rand Powder Co.)
“E.A. Sturdevant shot a 16-gauge Parker at 26 yards, with 2 3/4 drams Du Pont, and 1 ounce No. 8 and 7 shot. He killed 23, which was a very nice performance.”
Winchester Repeater: J.A.R. & Dave Elliott, Ed Banks (“E.C.” and “Schultze” Powder Co.), Ralph Trimble (WRAC)
Cashmore: T.A. Marshall, Dr. W.F. Carver
Francotte: Fred Coleman, Paul North (Cleveland Target Co.), J., C., & O. Von Lengerke
Remington: R.O. Heikes, Col. A.G. Courtney, Frank Parmelee, B. Le Roy (Remington, DuPont and U.M.C.) E.D. Fulford, George Roll, Captain J.A.H. Dressel (U.M.C. and president of the Interstate Association)
Greener: Capt. A.W. Money
Baker: W.R. Crosby (who in 1900 switched to a Smith, and 1906 to a Parker)

[Drew Hause]

Parker went 1-2-3 1900 GAH at Live Birds, Queens, L.I. at the new Interstate Park
Won by 25 year old H.D. Bates, using a Parker, of Ridgetown, Ontario after 8 men tied at 25: J. L. Smith, C. F. Ayling, J. R. Malone – 2nd, Col. A.G. Courtney, Dr. A.A. Webber, Tom A. Marshall, and Phil Daly – 3rd.
“The Parker gun which Phil Daly Jr. shot in the Grand American Carnival and won third prize, was one which he borrowed from A.W. Du Bray, the Parker representative. Daly never saw the gun until the day before the big event, when he killed 15 out of 16. In the big event be was shot out on the 32d bird.”
Guns—Parker- 73, Smith- 34, Greener- 19, Francotte- 19, Daly- 12, Remington- 10, Lefever- 7, Scott- 7, Winchester- 5, Cashmore- 5, Purdey- 3, Baker- 2, Colt- 2, Richards- 2, Marlin, Prechtel, Grant, Webley, Stannard, Forehand, Syracuse, Churchill, Claybrough- 1 each.
http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL3504011.pdf
http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL3504012.pdf
Forest & Stream 4-14-1900
https://books.google.com/books?id=UkohAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA299



Parker Shooters: H.D. Bates, A.W. Money, J.D. Gay, H.E. Buckwalter, A.H. Fox, F.S. Parmelee, Wilbur F. Parker, A.W. DuBray, R.O. Heikes, and Annie Oakley.
A. H. Fox used a DH SN 88807 ordered on August 9, 1898 by H.P. Collins in Baltimore. The gun was a 12/30 Titanic, with a straight grip and no safety. The gun was returned to Parker Bros. on September 18, 1900 by A. H. Fox to clean and rebrown the barrels and repair the action and the work was completed October 5, 1900.

[Drew Hause]

The Interstate Association’s First Annual GAH at Targets June 1900
"The traps were placed inside the live bird grounds, Nos. 2 and 3 being used. At No. 1 score a Magautrap was placed, at No. 2 a set of three expert traps, on the Sergeant system; at No. 3 a Magautrap; at No. 4 a set of five expert traps, throwing unknown angles. Nos. 1, 2 and 3 were arranged on the flat, or underground plan, without an inch of screen in the way. No. 4, the five expert trap set, had a low screen, and the shooting platform was almost on a level with the top of it. At the first three sets the targets were seen almost from the moment they left the traps, coming, as they did, directly out of the ground. This gave a quick sight, but to many men a deceptive one, as they were inclined to fire too quickly, often undershooting. Blue Rock targets were used, and a good, fair flight was thrown at a uniform speed and angle. Owing to the four different sets of traps, each with a different background, the scores were not high."
Grand American Handicap at Targets, open to all. 100 Blue Rocks, handicaps 14 to 25 yards:
R.O. Heikes, Dayton, O., 22 yds., Remington - 91
“Hood,” Baltimore, 18 yds., Parker - 89
P.H. Willey, Danville, N. Y., 16 yds., Parker - 88
G.O. Henderson, Hingham, Mass., 17 yds., Smith - 88
“Robin Hood” (Charles Young), Young Repeater, 20 yds - 88
H. Landis. Philadelphia, Cashmore, 18 yds. - 88

http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL3514013.pdf
Guns: Parker- 27, Smith – 13, Remington – 7, Winchester – 9, Greener – 4, Lefever – 3, Scott, Purdey, Marlin – 2 each, Young Repeater, Cashmore, Baker, Richards, Daly, Francotte – 1 each.

[CSL]

Great information Drew,

Thanks for taking the time to share the research, very much appreciated...

Best, Chris ~ CSL
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