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Unread 06-25-2018, 08:37 PM   #1
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that box of shells would be a fine addition to your gun...charlie
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Sorry I am late to this party.

I came across an interesting notation in a 1898 Hartley & Graham Catalogue.

Notice the bottom of the right page. It states "Straight Grip (Pigeon) stocks to order, no extra charge".

This would lead me to believe that by the turn of the century Pigeon was synonymous for a Straight Gripped Gun.

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Interesting ads for second hand guns in 1906; several "Pigeon" listed along with grips and the dimensions, which appear very "modern"
https://books.google.com/books?id=r0...J&pg=PA888&lpg
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It seems the straight grip for competition guns was popular back then, maybe because of double triggers. Although, I have never had any difficulty with straight versus pistol grips on my guns. I guess it was as just preference. The straight gripped guns look more lively and fast to me.
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E.D. Fulford, winner of the 1898 GAH at Live Birds with a Remington had a different opinion



"TRAP FACTS FROM FULFORD"
Sporting Life, Utica, N. Y., March 14, 1898
http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL3026025.pdf
A gun with two sets of barrels, both the same length and weight, is to be recommended. Have trap set bored to shoot 70 per cent, of load in a 30-inch circle, at 40 yards. Have field set with right barrel cylinder and left barrel modified choke. Get a gun with drop and cast-off that fits you, and one that you can hit the objects with. The average man needs about 2 3/4 inches drop at butt, 1 1/2 inches drop at comb, 14 1/4 inches long, full pistol grip, weight 7 1/2 to 8 pounds. The Remington Arms Company without doubt or question produce the best and strongest gun for the money made in the world to-day.

Apparently that is what Hunter Arms thought; from the 1910 catalog and fairly late since the last GAH at Live Birds was 1902
"The straight grip admits of the most rapid work possible and supplies a want long felt by sportsmen."

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1895 and only one straight grip. The DuPont Cup was at Live Birds

The World Record squad: Harmon Dando- 20, Smith; (a glowering) E.D. Fulford– 20, Greener; Ferd. Van Dyke– 20, Winchester; John Connor– 20, Daly; Sim Glover– 20, Greener; Charles Young– 19, Young Repeater

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