No Grade Stamp

[LGoodman16875]

Thank you all, going to the next step, then it needs a new home.

[Dean Romig]

That's noble of you but a non-member suggesting on this website that a gun is for sale is strictly against forum rules.





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[LGoodman16875]

Thank you Dean ����

[Dean Romig]

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[Bill Murphy]

Some posters have erroneously indicated that a Damascus barrel gun must be grade 2 or higher. That is not true. There are Damascus guns in this serial number range that are grade 1. However, I can't read the serial number or the rib legend, so I am in the dark. I would guess that this gun is a Damascus grade 1, rare as they may be. Knowing the serial number and the rib legend may shed some light.

[LGoodman16875]

Serial is 16875

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Some posters have erroneously indicated that a Damascus barrel gun must be grade 2 or higher. That is not true. There are Damascus guns in this serial number range that are grade 1. However, I can't read the serial number or the rib legend, so I am in the dark. I would guess that this gun is a Damascus grade 1, rare as they may be. Knowing the serial number and the rib legend may shed some light.

Further, I don't believe any (never say never) grade 2 guns were produced with roll-stamped lock plates and hammers... hammers maybe, but not lock plates. Grade 2 guns, again, had birds engraved on the lock plates and bottom of the frame. Grade 1 guns had no birds or dogs (or any other animal) engraved. I know this seems like a broad statement but it is as close to factual as my experience tells me.





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[Jim DiSpagno]

Dean, 12083 was listed as a 12 ga D2 lifter and it had roll stamped locks and hammers. See pics in my photos. Jim

[B. Dudley]

In the era that this gun was produced, grade two guns typically had sculpted bolsters, damascus barrels, 3 point checkering patterns and light engraving including knick-dot botders with some flourishes of scroll. The game birds on grade 2 guns came later.

[Bill Murphy]

I made my statement about Grade 1 Damascus guns after I thought I had read a five digit serial number starting in #4. There are Grade 1 Damascus guns in the forties, but this gun is obviously not one of them.