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went hunting this evening wind was blowing but i just had to try...i carried a 410 stevens double it was like toteing nothing compared to the 8 ga parker... one thing for sure the shells are a lot lighter you could probably tote 3 boxes of 410 compared to the 8 ga shells... the hunt was good but no squirls seen it was really cool i had to wear a coat..all in all it was a good hunt no squirls to clean....charlie