Ithaca 4E help

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

There are Flues era guns with factory 22" barrels. I have a letter on a ten gauge with factory 22" barrels. I don't recall if the letter mentioned the original buyer.

Wells Fargo?

[nid-28]

There is no way to get a "Factory" letter on Ithacas. Who knows when Cody will offer that service using records donated by Walt. I'm sure they will have to be computerized first. Doubtful they'll do any manual searches. I had an non-indicator NID 16 Field some years ago with original 22 inch barrels and a single trigger. Lou Smith, Ithaca Pres, was an avid grouse hunter and had a few made up as Upland Specials. Walt had records on the gun to verify.

[Researcher]

Walter pictures a 16-gauge NID Field Grade, serial number 461345, with 22-inch cylinder and improved cylinder barrels, a single non-selective trigger, with its hang tag on page 327 of the Second Edition of his book. Walter calls it an "Uplander" but that term doesn't appear on the hang-tag.

In my pretty complete collection of NID period catalogs and price lists I've not seen such a gun offered. Guess it was one of those "you had to know somebody" items!!

[Bill Murphy]

I believe Walt sent me provenance on the ten gauge Flues 22" gun. As I posted, I don't remember who the original purchaser was. NID28, don't question my statements on provenance until you know me better.

[nid-28]

Bill==I never questioned your provenance on anything and have no clue what you're talking about. I told James Palmer--who asked about a factory letter--that I don't think it's possible AT THIS TIME, from Cody. I've gotten many provenance details from Walt over many years and your posting never entered into my thinking or response.

[Bill Murphy]

Yup, Walt was my source, as well as on other Ithaca guns, including my Sousa Single. I think he is a good source.

[Dean Romig]

Walt has very kindly helped me on a few Ithacas in the past several years.





.

[Harold Pickens]

Wouldn't want to be in that duck blind when that 22" 10 ga went off!!

[Researcher]

There are Flues era guns with factory 22" barrels. I have a letter on a ten gauge with factory 22" barrels. I don't recall if the letter mentioned the original buyer.
Wells Fargo?

The righteous Wells Fargo Ithaca doubles were either NIG hammer guns before 1915 or the "New Two Bolt Hammer Model" after 1915.

[Bill Murphy]

I missed my chance to buy the 22" Flues ten at a reasonable price. It was a mint gun with fluid steel barrels. NID28, you most certainly did question my statement on the provenance of the 22" ten gauge Flues. I saw your post as a statement that I had lied. Try again. I am a serious researcher and I don't lie. How about an apology?