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you guys sure have some nice guns hope you all get to see lots of grouse..no grouse in mississippi i envey you fellows....will hunt doves this saturday using a v grade 20 ga with 27 inch barrels and full and modified chokes for backup i m taking another 20 ga d grade with straight stock and damascus barrels with factory chokes of clyinder and full 28 inch barrels this gun belonged to roert wood johnson of johnson and johnson fame....charlie