Vintage double trap

[Kevin McCormack]

Chuck, Don came to several of our major bunker matches at Ontelaunee. Very easygoing, reserved type guy. He would show up very unobtrusively and just blend into the spectator gallery. Michael Diamond, who won the Olympic gold medal in trap in Atlanta in 1996 and again in Sydney in 2000 was also a regular competitor at our international matches there.

[Cold Spring]

Craig, from the 1928 Rule Book: 16 yards, each double to be thrown as a right and left quarterer whose flights shall be limited between 20 and 65 degrees right and left of an imaginary straight line drawn through the center of the number 3 firing point and prolonged through the center of the central trap or through the center of the single trap when only one trap is used.

The Rules go on to describe using stakes to distinguish if targets are within or without bounds.

I don't shoot competitive Trap so I don't know how this relates to present day ATA Rules.

frank

[Gary Laudermilch]

North Mountain Sportsman's Club in Sullivan county, PA has a certified bunker trap field. We were there to shoot sporting one day and watched some Olympic hopefuls practice. The coach (I forget his name) goaded us into giving it a try. I only had 1 improved mod choke tube so I only shot once per target. Well, I shot an 18 which I thought was pretty good considering I am not a trap shooter. I am not fond of shooting american trap but this bunker trap was fun and challenging. If you ever have the chance give it a try.

[Craig Larter]

Thanks all for the information.

[Pa SxS]

Gary, do you know Brent Richmond from Hillsgrove Pa? His grandson, Joshua Richmond is a former worlds champion at Olympic trap doubles and has competed in the Olympics.

[Drew Hause]

Here you go Craig
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/...oubles.422185/

Pre- and immediately post-WWI American trap doubles, pre-WWI Olympic Trap, modern Olympic (bunker) trap (2 shots at one target) and modern Olympic Trap Doubles are all very different disciplines.

The first Olympic 'bunker' is in the foreground at the 1908 Olympics - the British team



Rules for the 1912 Stockholm Olympics are here, with a link to a brief live action film of the shooting
https://docs.google.com/document/pub...jEdR4j_E9l4HLw

[Gary Laudermilch]

Chuck, I do not know either of them personally. My son works in that area and he knows them. I am aware of Joshua's accomplishments however.

I am more familiar with Morgan Craft, also from rural Sullivan county and a frequent shooter at North Mountain. Morgan competed in the last Olympics in women's skeet and I believe made it to the medal qualifying round. She won the world cup last year. I have had the pleasure of shooting sporting with her on a few occasions.

Hard to believe an area so rural would generate two Olympic contenders.

[Big D]

I'm not a trap shooter, but it seems to me that some number of years ago didnt they reduce the angles for the birds. Apparently the competitors didn't want those hard right and hard left birds.

[OH Osthaus]

oh no--- snowflake trap

[Drew Hause]

The 1898 “Trap Shooting Rules” by the American Trapshooting Association (courtesy of Randy Davis) listed the following rules:
Charge of powder was unlimited
Shot was limited to 1 1/4 oz. by “Dixon’s measure”
Weight limit (there was no weight limit in 1890 or 1893) and ‘naked’ (weight without hand guard or recoil 'boot')was not stated:
10g - 9 lbs. 4 oz.
12g - 8 lbs. 4 oz.
16g - 7 lbs. 12 oz.
20g - 7 lbs. 8 oz.
Single target rise……….Double target rise:
10g - 18 yds……...........…16 yds.
12g - 16 yds…….............14 yds.
16g - 14 yds…….............12 yds.
20g - 13 yds…….............11 yds.