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Why would you want a #4 or #5 frame hammerless gun when you could have a #6 frame hammerless? Oh, how soon we forget, you do have a #6 frame hammerless gun. Are they great guns or what? Have you measured your chambers. My steel barrel #6 frame has 3 1/2" chambers. I think you saw that 34" monster at Ernie's a couple of years ago. Have you found a #4 frame ten gauge pigeon gun yet?