Barrel weight stamp and final gun weight

[William Davis]

I have a 30 inch Damascus GH with barrels marked 3 12 Chokes are 30 & 38 guns weight is 7 lbs 6 oz on a postage scale.

William

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by William Davis

I have a 30 inch Damascus GH with barrels marked 3 12 Chokes are 30 & 38 guns weight is 7 lbs 6 oz on a postage scale.

William

Thanks, William. This seems to be on the lighter side, would you agree. **I'll bet it's great to carry and shoot.** Is this also on a #1 frame?

Parkers get knocked for being heavier than, say, Fox or Ithaca guns, and I certainly have very lightweight Foxes and Ithacas. I just bought the GH in question above and a very early CE grade Fox (30 inch barrels, although not Damascus of course). It weighs 7 lbs. 11 oz. (no barrel weight markings -- too early for that I suspect). Certainly too small a sample size to draw any conclusions, but I hope we'll find that there are more lighter weight Damascus 12s than one might expect.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

I just bought the GH in question above and a very early CE grade Fox (30 inch barrels, although not Damascus of course). It weighs 7 lbs. 11 oz. (no barrel weight markings -- too early for that I suspect).

It? The Parker GH or the Fox CE?

If the Parker GH, I would venture to say I can't remember ever seeing a GH, regardless of year made - or even a G hammer gun - that didn't have the pre-struck weight stamp. I suppose there may have been one or two that "slipped between the cracks" but it was the standard practice to stamp the pre-struck weight almost from the earliest days.





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[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

It? The Parker GH or the Fox CE?

If the Parker GH I would venture to say I can't remember ever seeing a GH, regardless of year made - or even a G hammer gun - that didn't have the pre-struck weight stamp. I suppose there may have been one or two that "slipped between the cracks" but it was the standard practice to stamp the pre-struck weight almost from the earliest days.
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Sorry, Dean. I guess I'm too linear. The Fox had no barrel weight marking. The GH is the one noted in the original post (with photo) along with its un-struck barrel weight. Forgive the confusion.

[edgarspencer]

Something got me to thinking (no small feat lately) and I did an unscientific comparison of two similar 1 1/2 frame 12s. Both with skeleton butts, and same LOP.
A 30" DHE with bbls marked 3lbs 14 oz., actual weight 3lbs, 5.4 oz.
Receiver with fore end; 4lbs, 3.0oz., for a total assembled weight of 7lbs,8.4oz.

A 28" BHE, with bbls marked 3lbs, 12oz., Actual weight, 3 lbs, 0.0oz.
Receiver with fore end; 3lbs, 12.2oz., for a total assembled weight of 6lbs, 12.2oz

The 28" Barrels were 5.4 ounces less than the 30".

In the past I have found that, on average, 2" at the muzzle accounted for about 2-3 ounces of unstruck weight, so the BHE barrels apparently have had more striking done.

The BHE Receiver and fore end weighed 6.8oz. less than a nearly identical DHE.

The remainder of the difference in weight must be in both the boring out, (evidenced by the two plugs in the checkered butt) and the density of the stock.