The tubes are likely Savage Fourtenners. If you would post a picture of the open breech section we could confirm that. If you can't post a picture, maybe you could email a picture to one of the readers of this thread. OK, about the Fourtenners. They are held in place by O rings. When they are left in place for a long time, the O rings melt in place making the tube nearly impossible to remove. They can also rust in place if they are the steel variety. I recommend you take Mr. Akins up on his offer to help. He is a skilled and honest gun person and will give you good advice. I have removed stuck Fourtenners with a wooden dowel close to bore diameter, pressed forcefully from the muzzle. The muzzle of the Fourtenner is bore diameter and flared at the end, so the dowel must be very close to 12 gauge diameter.
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