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Unread 04-24-2017, 12:06 PM   #1
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Generally, the front trigger/right barrel is the more open choke unless the gun is choked F/F in both barrels. There are even a few Parkers originally choked with the right barrel tighter. How is yours choked?

Trap shooting, which originally involved live birds, was always shot with both barrels at the same bird... it was in the rules - otherwise there wouldn't be a need for the second shot or barrel.

My how times change! "Vintage Trap" still allows both barrels to be fired at the same bird if the first shot is ineffective.

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Times did not change I think the game changed. Olympic/Bunker/International trap is and has always been two shots per target. Were two shots ever allowed in "American" Trap?
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American trap (16yds, and handicap) only allow 1 shell in the gun per target. It's a safety rule. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. American doubles of course is two shots. Bunker, Skeet, and Sporting Clays are a 2 shot game.

Copied from the ATA Rule Book:

12.
A contestant shall place a live shell in his/her gun only when on a post
facing the traps. In Singles and Handicap shooting he/she may place
only one (1) live shell in his/her gun at a time and must remove it or
the empty shell(s) before moving from one post to another. In Doubles
shooting he/she may place two (2) live shells in his/her gun at a time
and must remove both live or empty shells before moving from one (1)
post to another. In changing from one (1) post to another, the shooter
shall not walk in front of the other competitors.
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Inanimate Single Target Shooting 1890 American Shooting Association Rules
https://archive.org/stream/fieldcove...e/468/mode/2up
Single target - One shell
Double targets - Two shells.
Double targets were part of the “E.C.” Inanimate Target Championship Cup held in May, 1896, but the first GAH Doubles Competition (non-exhibition) was in 1908
http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL5117024.pdf
Won by H.E. Buckwalter (Lefever) of Royersford, Pa. with 18x20.

Live Bird Rules allowed 2 shots
The Art of Wing Shooting: A Practical Treatise on the Use of the Shotgun
William Bruce Leffingwell. 1895
http://books.google.com/books?id=e34EmE3tkfkC
“Rules for Inanimate Targets”
http://books.google.com/books?id=e34...kC&pg=PA167&vq
“Rules for Live Bird Shooting”
http://books.google.com/books?id=e34...kC&pg=PA177&vq

An interesting exception was the 1901 Anglo-American Match during which the U.S. Team (mostly using Parkers) used ONE 1 1/4 oz. shell and the British could use 2 1 1/8 oz. shells. The U.S. still won.
https://docs.google.com/document/pub...jEdR4j_E9l4HLw

Eldon: get thee to the pattern plate, for both POI and pattern % at the distance at which you usually break targets, on those rare occasions

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Well thats what I figured. Looks like I need to start building a pattern board. In the mean time Im sticking to trap doubles. Dean both the Parker I have been shooting and the L.C. Smith are choked full/full.
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