Remington 1/2 Frame Parkers

[Bindlestiff]

I the Volume 7, Issue 3 Parker Pages from 2000, Ron Kirby wrote that there was speculation that the 1/2 frame was a Remington innovation but there is evidence that they were working on the 1/2 frame as early as 1929, Ron said there is a blue print of the 1/2 frame dimensions. He did say where he found the blue print? He did however have a chart from a Remington Catalog, Dept 50 which I will post here.

After a quick computer search of the Parker Pages DVD, it looks like there have been at least four articles written about the Half Frame Parker.

Sometime ago, I sent 1/2 frame data I had collected over the years from auction sales to someone on the forum working on an article for Parker Pages. I don't know why but I can't locate the mail exchange and I don't remember who it was. But, the table I posted above has been updated but I can't verify if 241,672 was among the additions.

[Bill Murphy]

I have seen this chart. As a chart showing which gauges were made on which frame sizes, it is very incomplete. As a supposedly late Remington illustration, it does not indicate the abbreviated frame versus gauge usage that was proposed for the end of production. It seems to be a very early chart of frames that Remington intended to use for various gauges. This chart is not intended to illustrate all gauges built on all frames. It also does not show the use of the 000 frame for the 28 gauge, which was a very late proposal that was to take Remington into the end of Parker production.

[Austin W Hogan]

Has anyone seen a 3 frame 8 ga?

Best, Austin

[Bill Murphy]

I just noticed THE CHART POSTED ABOVE IS INCORRECT. THESE ARE NOT THE CORRECT PIN SEPARATIONS. The only correct pin separation chart that I know of is on page 527 of The Parker Story.

[Autumn Daze]

Robin,I would think that you gave that info to Craig Reynolds who published an updated 1/2 frame article a couple of Parker Pages ago. He used info from Kirby's research and added some additional info and an updated list of known 1/2 frame guns. An outstanding article I might add.

Parker Bros. was the one who first conjured up the idea for the 1/2 frame.I have a copy of the blueprint for the 1/2 frame and if memory serves it was dated 1930. The drawing is in my other computer and not available right now but I posted this drawing here not to long ago and sent some e-copies to interested parties. Maybe someone here has it in their machine an can post it for us all.

[Bill Murphy]

Austin, Robin's chart has three errors in pin placement distance. Maybe he would correct them and repost the chart.

[Bill Murphy]

Austin, I also find it hard to believe that the #3 frame was made in two different widths. No, I have not seen an eight gauge on a #3 frame. Funny how that set of figures appears on a chart put together by a Remington employee who had probably never seen an eight gauge Parker. The smallest hammerless eight gauge frame I have ever seen is a #6.