New Remington shells & hulls

[Cold Spring]

Bruce, I have no idea what pressure the new C&F shells are loaded to, but without any information to the contrary from Remington, it's prudent for any users to keep in mind the SAAMI max pressure for 2-3/4" 12-gauge, along with the Institute's standard WARNING for modern shotshell ammunition. Here's one version on a Remington box that's handy: These shells must not be used in guns with chambers shorter that 2-3/4 inches, guns with Damascus or twist steel barrels, or guns not intended for use with modern smokeless powders. I really doubt that Remington is using anything other than a high energy/grain double-base powder in the new C&F shells. And surely they're made to function 100% reliably in autoloaders.

Note to readers, the "low brass" 12-gauge Field load of my youth was 1-1/8 ounce of shot loaded to 1225 fps, and most gents out for mixed small game had one of those in the right barrel along with a high brass H.V. load in the left (1-1/4 ounce at 1330). Repeaters usually had a low brass in the chamber along with one or more high brass in the magazine. Food for thought as some of us head out to the game fields this season with light payloads and/or so-called low pressure loads that are (supposedly) in the 1100 fps bracket.

[Bruce Day]

Originally Posted by Frank Srebro

Bruce, I have no idea what pressure the new C&F shells are loaded to, but without any information to the contrary from Remington, it's prudent for any users to keep in mind the SAAMI max pressure for 2-3/4" 12-gauge, along with the Institute's standard WARNING for modern shotshell ammunition. Here's one version on a Remington box that's handy: These shells must not be used in guns with chambers shorter that 2-3/4 inches, guns with Damascus or twist steel barrels, or guns not intended for use with modern smokeless powders. I really doubt that Remington is using anything other than a high energy/grain double-base powder in the new C&F shells. And surely they're made to function 100% reliably in autoloaders.

Note to readers, the "low brass" 12-gauge Field load of my youth was 1-1/8 ounce of shot loaded to 1225 fps, and most gents out for mixed small game had one of those in the right barrel along with a high brass H.V. load in the left (1-1/4 ounce at 1330). Repeaters usually had a low brass in the chamber along with one or more high brass in the magazine. Food for thought as some of us head out to the game fields this season with light payloads and/or so-called low pressure loads that are (supposedly) in the 1100 fps bracket.

Got it. Can't use these either.