Miller Triggers

[Austin W Hogan]

Dan; I think you are probably correct. Installing a Miller is not an easy task, and probably impossible without "inside" information from the Millers.
My remaining Miller/Parker is the 1920 vintage VHE live bird gun. I also have a similar era Fox C with the same model Miller. Miller equipped exposed hammer Parkers are known.
Has anyone seen a W 21 or Rem 32 with a Miller?

Best, Austin

[Drew Hause]

Rem 32

[Dan May]

The Millers were granted patents for over/under triggers in 1933, 1938, 1951 and 1962. As Drew shows above, the Model 32 was a very common conversion. I've never seen a converted 21, the 21 single trigger is usually pretty reliable. But never say never!

Dan

[Twice Shooter]

Hi Austin, I have a Model 21 trap gun with a Miller. It has the toggle selector in front of the triger. Cheers, Tom

[Austin W Hogan]

Thanks, Tom, but you lost me a big bet; I figured Murphy would have had it!

Best Austin

[Dan May]

Like I said, never say never! That's what makes this all so much fun. I think the Millers put one of their triggers in everything at one time or another. They were even working on set triggers for bolt action rifles, I have a few of the prototypes. Crazy!

[Harry Collins]

I just had Uncle Bill's 16 gauge VH repaired by DelGrego. It was missing most of the screws and the cocking lever etc. The young Larry DelGrego said that when he was still in high school he was sent to work with the Miller Trigger folks to learn all about the triggers. One of the things he told me was the tension on the two screws that connect the floor plate to the back strap was a critical part of the opperation.

Harry

[Bill Murphy]

Tom, what is the serial number of your Miller equipped Model 21? Howard Miller's Model 21 pigeon gun was equipped with his trigger. It is a 32" Trap Grade, consecutively serial numbered to my 32" Trap Grade, both vent rib guns. Austin, I don't own a Miller trigger 21, but it isn't for lack of trying. Miller trigger hammer guns are not uncommon. I watched a Miller trigger Whitworth barrelled Purdey hammer pigeon gun sitting on the rack in a gun store where I worked for months before a friend finally bit the bullet and took it home.

[Dan May]

Harry,

That is absolutely true, not only for the Miller but most singles. More specifically it is the distance between the upper and lower tangs that is important and screw tension can affect this. The distance is set when the installation is done and is the most common cause of malfunctions down the road. The trigger mechanism itself is just about bulletproof once it is made and hardened, changes in its relationship to the wood is usually the source of problems.

Dan

[Twice Shooter]

Austin, Sorry you lost your bet. I hope it wasn't a AA 20 gauge.

Bill, It will be this weekend before I can get the serial number. I'll PM you when I get it. I'm tied up with other things.

Cheers, Tom