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It's going to take somebody who knows a lot more about Lefevers than me . Just the frame sizes can be boggling. The 16 is on the small XX frame , 1" spacing. But the 12 is not marked and is 1 3/32 " c to c . I understand there are 12 ga frames at 1 , 1 1/8 " , 1 1/4 " and so these 12 gauge gun weights vary widely and the frame sizes are not marked except for XX.