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While I appreciate the 'support the PGCA' view, might I suggest it's a tad shortsighted?

First, (I don't know) does RST really support the PGCA or does it just show up to sell its wares? There's a difference.

Second, isn't it fair to say ANY company that bothers to offer a specialty product into a niche market (assuming their product offering is viable) deserves some sort of support from its customer base?

Maybe we could all team up and really go after those SOB's at Polywad. Just who do they think they are? We'll vote with our dollars, that's what we'll do. Then, if they are still around we'll track them down one by one until there is no more Polywad. The nerve!

[King Cobb]

Originally Posted by greg conomos

While I appreciate the 'support the PGCA' view, might I suggest it's a tad shortsighted?

First, (I don't know) does RST really support the PGCA or does it just show up to sell its wares? There's a difference.

Second, isn't it fair to say ANY company that bothers to offer a specialty product into a niche market (assuming their product offering is viable) deserves some sort of support from its customer base?

Maybe we could all team up and really go after those SOB's at Polywad. Just who do they think they are? We'll vote with our dollars, that's what we'll do. Then, if they are still around we'll track them down one by one until there is no more Polywad. The nerve!

1st- no one attacked or said anything negative about polywad. The only criticism at all was the inverse in that no one has documented polywad either coming to shoots or being a sponsor.
2nd- Jeff didn't hem and haw when he said "Morris from RST has been a very generous sponsor for PGCA for years." That sounds like support.
3rd- He asked people for their opinions and such are being provided.
4th-Have you considered a career in politics Fish? This level of reactionism defensiveness should play well in the political sphere at this time

PS: The last comment is meant purely in jest.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by greg conomos

While I appreciate the 'support the PGCA' view, might I suggest it's a tad shortsighted?

Not at all - we support those who support us. We do it in our business lives and we do it in our personal lives... it's just the way it is.

First, (I don't know) does RST really support the PGCA or does it just show up to sell its wares? There's a difference.

Indeed RST (read, Morris Baker) supports the PGCA, not only in the gifts of flats of all gauges of his shotshells for our Annual Silent Auction, but in other ways as well.

Second, isn't it fair to say ANY company that bothers to offer a specialty product into a niche market (assuming their product offering is viable) deserves some sort of support from its customer base?

Absolutely! And I will support those businesses whom I choose. But, from me, the ones who reciprocate will get the majority of my personal business.

Maybe we could all team up and really go after those SOB's at Polywad. Just who do they think they are? We'll vote with our dollars, that's what we'll do. Then, if they are still around we'll track them down one by one until there is no more Polywad. The nerve!

Even though that was meant 'tongue-in-cheek', it's just overreacting.

And that's my personal opinion.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by greg conomos

First, (I don't know) does RST really support the PGCA or does it just show up to sell its wares? There's a difference.

Yes, they show up at most every event I've been to, and sell their wares. They are, in fact the only supplier who bothers to do so, and for that we are all grateful, as many come without ammo, and don't reload.
Additionally, they give generously, many cases of ammo each year for the Silent Auction, at the Annual Meeting, in addition to ammo in the 'Goodie Bags'. If I've been able to observe this much support, it seems logical that there's a darn sight more I don't see. As the First Mate on the tug I worked on used to say "Do you really need Nine Rays of Sunshine blown up your Touch Hole Before you see what everyone else does?" Kinda sums it up in my mind, but maybe not everyone talks like we did, lugging a few million pounds of ordinance.