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Unread 04-11-2015, 08:21 AM   #1
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I have been looking for the right Fox in 16ga. for years!!! Even thought about sending one out for full custom work. That turned out to be a huge undertaking and I got cold feet about the unknowns...dollar cost and time involved this and that kinda stuff. I looked a the few used CSMC Fox 16-s and never found one that was just what I wanted. I even called Lou about one I looked at with skeleton plate that Robbin Hollow still has that the pull was too long for me....Lou said it would be a big project and I would do better to order a new gun to my liking. After that conversation I started thinking about it???...man he was right! For just a little more I could do just that and have a gun made to order...sweet. So after long thought I called Lou back and asked about my two trades, told him what I felt was fair trade in values and he said bring em up. Plans were made and the deal is done! Now I started searching the web looking at all the CSMC Fox guns to get a better idea of what I like and did not like. My favorite gun and its twin was the DE-spl that Steve had on GI....I looked at that 28ga and its twin the 410 everyday. I could not take it! I called Steve about the 28ga. and made him a cash and one good trade offer. He agreed with no hesitation.....I was surprised at that!....the gun now has a new home. I am the 2nd owner not counting Steve. I liked the gun so much I called him to ask about its mate the 410...I was so dang lucky....its already SOLD!!! I might have took a loan on my house! SXS ohio
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Steve is a great guy to deal with period! I would have had the CSMC DE 28 IF he could have traded but like I said before it's a consignment gun and I have two Parker 28's.

Ruff Hunter please tell me where I can buy a Boss, Purdey or Holland & Holland small bore for $20K. I have a very nice Holland & Holland Badminton 20GA (also purchased from Steve) that was significantly more than a CSMC Fox.
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Steve is a great guy to deal with period! I would have had the CSMC DE 28 IF he could have traded but like I said before it's a consignment gun and I have two Parker 28's.
Rich, I have been lusting over that little CSMC Fox for at least 5 or more years. I first saw it on foxriversporting.com when it was listed for thousands less than it is now. It sold. A couple of years later it popped up on Barnett's site for thousands less than when Fox River Sporting had it listed. It sold. Now it shows up again on Barnett's site at ~ $9K more than the last time it was listed a couple of years ago. The best pics of this gun that I've seen are still on the Fox River Sporting site:
http://www.foxriversporting.com/prod...x-de-28ga-csmc
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Steve is a great guy to deal with period! I would have had the CSMC DE 28 IF he could have traded but like I said before it's a consignment gun and I have two Parker 28's.

Ruff Hunter please tell me where I can buy a Boss, Purdey or Holland & Holland small bore for $20K. I have a very nice Holland & Holland Badminton 20GA (also purchased from Steve) that was significantly more than a CSMC Fox.
In just a few minutes, I found this one comparable example that's in the ball park of the numbers that are being thrown around...with a little more research, I suspect several more could be located.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=476422582

And if one is not firmly wed to the smaller bores, examples like this Purdey best 12 gauge start looking cheap compared to the CSMC Fox.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=477759751

I'm not saying the Fox isn't worth it, just that I'm initially skeptical due to CSMC's gross over-pricing of its inventory of used guns from other makers. Some time ago I checked CSMC's feedback on GB, and from what I could tell, it was all the result of selling accessories. It did not appear, at least at that time, that they had ever actually sold a used gun on that site. When a seller over prices some of its inventory like that, they should expect that people are going to become cautious of the cost of their other products, and that's my only point regarding the CSMC Foxes.
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