Any of us own CSMC Fox guns or want too?

[SXS OHIO]

Her are some pictures that I just took. If you want to see better pictures it is still listed on Guns International, look under heading: Connecticut Shotgun CSMC , then 1/3 of the way down on the first page, Steve has some really good pictures.
This gun was made 1997 Engraved by Richard Roy and has exhibition Turkish walnut with FE checkering and has not been fooled with, shows some very light use and is still 99%...(-: Steve listed chokes as CYL/IC, it left the factory Skeet/IC and it measures .004/.007 chokes are also correct. I plan to take it out in the morning to shoot sporting clays. It does fire and eject properly as I shot it the day it came!, all is well. This is a wonderful example of the Fox guns built by CSMC. SXS ohio

[SXS OHIO]

Gun weight is 5lbs-2.5Oz 26" barrels.

[Ruff Hunter]

No one can deny that the CSMC Foxes are finely made and beautiful guns. The question is are they really worth the eye popping price for a new one? Perhaps they are, but I am skeptical. Galazan has only itself to blame for that skepticism. Look at their asking prices for any used gun of any brand that they market on GunBroker. Its laughable---typically about two to three times what the gun is possibly worth, and consistently across all makers. When it comes to pricing credibility, CSMC has shot itself in the foot, IMHO. That's why I am reluctant to conclude that their Foxes are worth the price tag, especially when one considers that a British best in very sound condition can be had for roughly the same price.

[SXS OHIO]

I do not think CSMC is getting rich selling hand made guns. I think they do well on some items like A-10, RBL, mini tommy guns while guns like the Fox make very little profit. The number of Foxes are just to small. The size and scope of his operation carries the Fox production and allows it to happen. Those who want a gun like the custom Fox are lucky to have Tony willing to fool with them! I wonder how long they will offer them?.....few are being made due to the cost. Lou tells me my XE-16 Fox order was sent back to the factory and is in the system to be started...(-: SXS ohio

[Opening Day]

Kenny, beautiful gun. I too agree that Tony is not making much on the Foxes, when he had the semi trailer / showroom at the Vintagers a third of it was devoted to Model 21's over a third to RBL's and over on one wall sat four beautiful Fox custom guns. He sure was not highlighting them..... Which tells me he is not making a huge profit on them like the others. They are just plain beautiful guns and I an proud to own my FE.

[terc]

Has any one ever asked Tony or Lou if they would make a custom Fox in 12g ?
Dave

[SXS OHIO]

I have been looking for the right Fox in 16ga. for years!!! Even thought about sending one out for full custom work. That turned out to be a huge undertaking and I got cold feet about the unknowns...dollar cost and time involved this and that kinda stuff. I looked a the few used CSMC Fox 16-s and never found one that was just what I wanted. I even called Lou about one I looked at with skeleton plate that Robbin Hollow still has that the pull was too long for me....Lou said it would be a big project and I would do better to order a new gun to my liking. After that conversation I started thinking about it???...man he was right! For just a little more I could do just that and have a gun made to order...sweet. So after long thought I called Lou back and asked about my two trades, told him what I felt was fair trade in values and he said bring em up. Plans were made and the deal is done! Now I started searching the web looking at all the CSMC Fox guns to get a better idea of what I like and did not like. My favorite gun and its twin was the DE-spl that Steve had on GI....I looked at that 28ga and its twin the 410 everyday. I could not take it! I called Steve about the 28ga. and made him a cash and one good trade offer. He agreed with no hesitation.....I was surprised at that!....the gun now has a new home. I am the 2nd owner not counting Steve. I liked the gun so much I called him to ask about its mate the 410...I was so dang lucky....its already SOLD!!! I might have took a loan on my house! SXS ohio

[C.O.B.]

Steve is a great guy to deal with period! I would have had the CSMC DE 28 IF he could have traded but like I said before it's a consignment gun and I have two Parker 28's.

Ruff Hunter please tell me where I can buy a Boss, Purdey or Holland & Holland small bore for $20K. I have a very nice Holland & Holland Badminton 20GA (also purchased from Steve) that was significantly more than a CSMC Fox.

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

Steve is a great guy to deal with period! I would have had the CSMC DE 28 IF he could have traded but like I said before it's a consignment gun and I have two Parker 28's.

Rich, I have been lusting over that little CSMC Fox for at least 5 or more years. I first saw it on foxriversporting.com when it was listed for thousands less than it is now. It sold. A couple of years later it popped up on Barnett's site for thousands less than when Fox River Sporting had it listed. It sold. Now it shows up again on Barnett's site at ~ $9K more than the last time it was listed a couple of years ago. The best pics of this gun that I've seen are still on the Fox River Sporting site:
http://www.foxriversporting.com/prod...x-de-28ga-csmc

[Ruff Hunter]

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

Steve is a great guy to deal with period! I would have had the CSMC DE 28 IF he could have traded but like I said before it's a consignment gun and I have two Parker 28's.

Ruff Hunter please tell me where I can buy a Boss, Purdey or Holland & Holland small bore for $20K. I have a very nice Holland & Holland Badminton 20GA (also purchased from Steve) that was significantly more than a CSMC Fox.

In just a few minutes, I found this one comparable example that's in the ball park of the numbers that are being thrown around...with a little more research, I suspect several more could be located.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=476422582

And if one is not firmly wed to the smaller bores, examples like this Purdey best 12 gauge start looking cheap compared to the CSMC Fox.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=477759751

I'm not saying the Fox isn't worth it, just that I'm initially skeptical due to CSMC's gross over-pricing of its inventory of used guns from other makers. Some time ago I checked CSMC's feedback on GB, and from what I could tell, it was all the result of selling accessories. It did not appear, at least at that time, that they had ever actually sold a used gun on that site. When a seller over prices some of its inventory like that, they should expect that people are going to become cautious of the cost of their other products, and that's my only point regarding the CSMC Foxes.