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Unread 03-09-2015, 08:09 PM   #1
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The one with the dog with bird in his mouth. That is the 1 frame style. And the plate will have a number 1 on the back of it.

Bear in mind that if your stock has been altered at all for that pad, an original style plate will likely not be able to be fitted.
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The one with the dog with bird in his mouth.
You sound pretty sure of that. Are you?
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This one.

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The original poster was asking about a period (1891-1895) which was covered by the one you are showing for only a short while in 1891, and was then superseded, mid year 1891, by the one which I described as looking more like a Labrador than a setter (without bird-in-mouth). See pages 42-43 of the serialization book, and page 103 of TPS.
It is my understanding, from a discussion with a few old timers, not unknown to the Parker community, that the numbers which appear on the back of butt plates refers to an approximate Butt size, not a frame size. This seems to make sense when you examine a butt plate on an '0' frame 16 gauge, having a '1' on it, and compare it to a butt plate on an '0' frame 20 gauge.
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Even though maybe 90% of #1 frame guns in the early years wore the "Bird dog with snipe in mouth" buttplate, Edgar is right about butt size. The number on the back of the buttplate and the art work on the face of the buttplate depends on the size of the back of the stock, rather than the frame size of the gun. There are many #1 frame guns that have the 0 frame buttstock size and the 0 frame buttplate with the "puppy" logo and the "0" on the back of the buttplate. There are also some 0 frame guns with the "Bird dog with snipe" buttplate with the #1 on the back side. To carry this paradox to the extreme, my .410 VHE Skeet has a full size #1 stock. Imagine that.
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