Parker Live Bird Gun??

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

Scott, It is my belief that having no dolls head speeded up the loading/unloading process in competiton guns.

Because the shooter was less likely to catch some of his own flesh or even his necktie in there when closing the gun.

[C.O.B.]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Because the shooter was less likely to catch some of his own flesh or even his necktie in there when closing the gun.

I'm glad I don't wear a tie when I shoot and I always wear gloves
My BHE has a Dolls head and I haven't lost any flesh yet...thankfully.

[Drew Hause]

Toward the end of 1901, Fred Gilbert received his new Parker DH SN 103649; no dolls head, no ejectors, 32`barrels, ordered by Russia Klien in Iowa.

I do not know the dimensions of his previous BH (which was/is in the safekeeping of a PGCA member) or the new DH, but after winning the DuPont Cup in 1895 the “Fred Gilbert Specifications” were drop at comb of 1 3/8 inches; at the heel, 2 inches; length from trigger to heel, 14 1/4 inches; trigger to toe 14 1/2 inches; and trigger to center of butt 14 inches; with a full pistol grip and 30-inch full choke barrels.

Did pretty good with the DH High average in both 1902 and 1903



Daryl: lots of information about "Tobacco Bill" Crosby about 1/2 way down here. He didn't use a Parker in competition until 1906
https://docs.google.com/a/damascuskn...iW-cpc/preview

[Twoatlow8]

With no dolls head you could not have ejectors, am I right?
So this would not speed loading as you would have to pick the empty's out.

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by Scott Janowski

With no dolls head you could not have ejectors, am I right?
So this would not speed loading as you would have to pick the empty's out.

ok - educate me - why would that be true? there is no mechanical connect that I know of

[Autumn Daze]

Rick, The ends of the shell ejectors ride in a channel on the rib extention. That is why you see the screw head on the end of the dolls head rib extention on ejector guns.

But many live bird/competition guns were ordered as extractor guns. So I hold true to my original statement that the buyers didn't want the dolls head in the way.