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Mills, none of the guns I used had twist or Damascus barrels and chambers were 2 5/8 & 2 3/4's long. I also used 16 gauge guns with lead until the full ban and then steel in the 16's, but 7/8 ounces of steel "sucked" unless the birds were very, very, very close and setting there wings to land. Like I said it was my personal experience and worked for me but each to there own.
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