How often do you buy another double

[wayne goerres]

Bet you kind of wished you had kept that one. those were nice guns for brush hunting.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Milton Starr

Ive also pondered getting a 45/70 but it would have to be a sharps or something like that . With my 585 I plan on shooting a 650gr brass solid @ 2700 fps . should be plenty of oomph lol . I also wanted a 577 snider before but wasn't into the look of the rifle . you could always ream that #1 to 45-120 and load it smokeless !

Wow! That is one heck of a load! 585 bullet at 2700 fps? That's .458 numbers. More. I think. A .458 will push a bullet that heavy to about 2200, I think.

I own one of those Axtell 1877 Sharps rifles. Have yet to shoot it! It is a pretty thing. I called the company, before they went broke, and asked them if I could shoot smokeless in it. They reported that it was only proofed for BP. They also said that they are a lot stronger than is the original Sharps. Anyway, if I ever get around to shooting it, I'll load it to moderate smokeless levels. I like shooting BP tho. Might try 777.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by wayne goerres

40 grs of 3031 is a pretty light load in a 45/70. You wont gain much by rechambering to 45/120 with smokeless powder. My 400/450 uses 60grs of 3031 with a 400gr jacked bullet. Mine is a double so it probable weighs a little more than a Ruger no 1.

I cannot recall what the load was I used in my 45/70 for the Ruger No 1. I do recall using 3031. I usually load the middle load as recorded in a reloading manual.

I have a friend who hunts with Lord Randolph Churchill's 400/450! I've seen the rifle, beautiful. Cased. As I write I cannot recall the maker. The owner had about a eight or ten wonderful double rifles.

[Eldon Goddard]

Originally Posted by Steve McCarty

I have a friend who hunts with Lord Randolph Churchill's 400/450! I've seen the rifle, beautiful. Cased. As I write I cannot recall the maker. The owner had about a eight or ten wonderful double rifles.

That would be something to see.
My .458 lott will push a 500 grain bullet 2300 and the .460 weatherby will go about 2600. I heard the early factory ammo for the .460 weatherby went as fast as 2700 but they turned it down.

[C.O.B.]

Originally Posted by wayne goerres

Bet you kind of wished you had kept that one. those were nice guns for brush hunting.

There have been times I wish I had it but the Taylor is a real nice rifle and will do much more than the 45/70 is capable of.

[wayne goerres]

You can shoot smokeless loads in that sharps but you should stick with nitro for black loads. 5744 is a pretty good powder to work with. Load to trap door pressures. Can you post some pics of your sharps.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Eldon Goddard

That would be something to see.
My .458 lott will push a 500 grain bullet 2300 and the .460 weatherby will go about 2600. I heard the early factory ammo for the .460 weatherby went as fast as 2700 but they turned it down.

I have fired a Whby 460 once, and from the bench. I embarrassed myself when the end of the bolt came back and hit me square on the nose, which filled my eyes with tears. I couldn't help it. When I shoot really big bore rifles I stand up and allow by torso to take the recoil.

I enjoy shooting H&H 375's and don't find them punishing. Of course when you actually shoot at hair you don't notice the recoil at all.

I doubt I'll ever go back to Africa. Around here elk are thick, I mean in my neighborhood! They are a pest. Deer too. I have never even shot at an elk tho. During elk season the woods sound like an infantry attack. Most guys, however; go after them with a bow in the earlier season and the success rate is high.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by wayne goerres

You can shoot smokeless loads in that sharps but you should stick with nitro for black loads. 5744 is a pretty good powder to work with. Load to trap door pressures. Can you post some pics of your sharps.

Here is the Axtell:





Critics complain that the Axtell's aren't up to Shiloh Sharps quality. Mine looks okay to me. I can see some slight flaws in the inletting, but not much.

[Bill Murphy]

That is not an ugly gun. Can we see a few more pictures?

[wayne goerres]

Dam fine English sharps (1877). Looks pretty good to me.