Opinions, please.

[Bill Murphy]

Keeping things the way they are promotes interest in guns, gun collecting, and gun trading. Allowing tubes in vintage gun competition will run the present competitors out of the game. Tubed competition style guns are an unfair advantage.

[John Truitt]

how about a gun that has been permanently rechambered down one gauge.
(IE: 10 bore rechambered permanently to a 12)

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Originally Posted by John Truitt

how about a gun that has been permanently rechambered down one gauge.
(IE: 10 bore rechambered permanently to a 12)

I say NO. We collect, shoot, compete, and hunt with vintage guns. A rechambered gun is not acceptable in a gauge specific competition. Hey, is it a 10 gauge because if left the factory as that or a 12 gauge because someone butchered a fine 10 gauge?

Why not allow any gauge so long as the shot payload is the same?

[John Truitt]

Mark,

As a way of resurrecting a gun that otherwise would not be usable.

I personally understand the concerns with tube sets but I don't see why rechambering a gun, to resurrect it, should be an issue. That should be no unfair advantage to any shooter.
IMO by doing so you have just reintroduced a gun to the world, stimulated the economy by paying for the work ( I think I am saying this correctly)

[John Truitt]

Why not allow any gauge so long as the shot payload is the same?[/QUOTE]

I don't understand this comment Mark?

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Originally Posted by John Truitt

Why not allow any gauge so long as the shot payload is the same?

I don't understand this comment Mark?[/QUOTE]

The comment was sarcastic.

An ounce and an eighth of shot is the same no matter the bore size. Isn't that correct? Not always.

I shoot a lot of 10 gauges at the SxS events. If one can move a big gun the larger bore can be very forgiving. To prepare for those shoots I spend much time handloading those big shells one at a time. I take pride in my work. Oh, the WalMart special promotional 12 gauge shells shoot better in my 10 (with Gauge Mate adapters) than they do in a 12 but I reframe from that in vintage shoots.

If the rules for a 10 gauge shoot allowed any Tom, Dick, or Harry to compete using a borrowed gun and 12 gauge AA's they bough at WalMart then why would I bother to enter? Something about the "vintage" of the shoot would be lost.

But then why are Parker Reproduction guns not allowed in competition? Would allowing those take something from the collectors who mortgaged the farm to buy a vintage 28 gauge Parker. Yup, probably so.

I could go on with why not old pumps and pre-war Auto 5's? I like them all but...

Vintage is vintage. Let's keep it that way.

Mark

[John Truitt]

How about our controversial 10/12 being shot in the 12 ga event.

Is that an issue?

There is a some interesting info about this conversion written by Cyril Adams from Texas.
He is one very involved with "Vintage Guns".

I am in no way offended by any ones comments and in no way am trying to offend any one else.

I am just trying to get a feel for what is out there.

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Originally Posted by John Truitt

How about our controversial 10/12 being shot in the 12 ga event.

Is that an issue?

Gee, I guess not as long as I may use a 10 gauge with 12 gauge adapters in the same shoot. Heck I'll even use a little gum to stick the adapters in the chambers.

Rules get confusing if they are not clear to the most casual of observers.

[C grade]

There are some excellent competitive shooters in our vintage SXS world. It seems most of them shoot heavy, long barreled 12 ga guns . I greatly respect and admire these shooters and enjoy watching them break targets. I do not necessarily want to shoot against them in sub gage events by allowing them to temporarily insert a "gage mate" in their 12 gage and have an unfair advantage . This is an amateur sport and I do not want to see it dominated by the pros. I have a good friend that is deadly with his long barreled 12, but I can kick his ass in 20ga and 28ga and greatly enjoy doing so! The light small gage guns are a different game and I want to keep it that way. JMHO
David

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by John Truitt

how about a gun that has been permanently rechambered down one gauge.
(IE: 10 bore rechambered permanently to a 12)

I wonder how complicated that might become.... An inspector with a set of inspection tools and charts much like is done at car racing events to be sure everyone is sticking to the rules. How would an inspector determine if a gun were "permanently" rechambered?