new found love for the 10 gauge short

[Cold Spring]

Ithaca NID Super 10 at work two weeks ago in upstate NY. Weight just a little short of 9 pounds with 32-inch tubes. I usually shoot Nice for long range work but these birds were decoyed and lighter loads of bismuth 2's and 4's worked just fine.

decoy spread at dawn

[10 bore]

Frank, tell us about your NID,year,lop,dah,choke. I have a grade 2 ,32 in. str. gripped ejector gun that Brian D brought back to life for me. have shot a few crows with it and a round of trap (24) but no waterfowl as of yet. gun shoots great. thanks scott

[Cold Spring]

Scott, I really like these NID Super 10's and have several of them. As you know they're often confused with the earlier Flues model, and with the later Ithaca Double Magnum which is just too heavy/ponderous for me. Super 10's will weigh 8-1/2 to about 9 pounds and were chambered for the new high velocity progressive 2-7/8" shells. This one was made in 1928 and is the so-called Star Model. Weight 8^15, chokes 44 and 44 points, LOP 14-1/4" and dah 2-5/8" (a little higher than typical).

I usually shoot heavy loads for long range hunting, on par with the original 4-3/4 DE & 1-5/8 ounce loads. Sorry, I won't give any recipes here or by PM. These Super 10's are fantastic long range guns. I've used mine for waterfowl, turkeys, called foxes in the winter, and at targets with 1-1/8 and 1-1/4 ounce loads. The problem is finding good honest guns and without mods like chambers lengthened for magnum 3-1/2" shells

Frank

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by Frank Srebro

Ithaca NID Super 10 at work two weeks ago in upstate NY. Weight just a little short of 9 pounds with 32-inch tubes. I usually shoot Nice for long range work but these birds were decoyed and lighter loads of bismuth 2's and 4's worked just fine.

Frank, Nice home coming trip for an Ithaca.

Glad to see we still have birds someplace. They disappeared from the fields around here the September day I put my 10 gauge Clabrough back together.

The Current season ends tomorrow here (on Thursday a few towns south). Oh well - there is always the March season. And at least one of the Parker 10's will be ready next fall.

[Bill Murphy]

When my former employer's shop had a relationship with Steve Lamboy and ICD guns were coming in on special order on a regular basis, I decided to order a Super Ten, which was in the prototype stages. I talked to Steve at Millbrook when he had the prototype ready for inspection. He had not built the barrels, used real Ithaca barrels, but the rest of the gun was new production and beautiful. My order, which was never completed, was a Grade 4 lightweight, just under 8 pounds, 28" lightly choked bird barrels, straight grip and splinter forend. I can't recall the other specifics, but I still have a copy of the order around here somewhere. It was quite a disappointment when Steve closed up shop before the Supers were built.

[Cold Spring]

Thanks everyone for your comments. The NID Super 10 described by Bill sounds like a duplicate of the one ordered by Capt Paul Curtis in about 1930. Curtis wrote that it came in at 8-1/4 pounds with 28" tubes. But Ithaca also sent a set of heavier 32" bbls gratis ... probably a statement by the factory folks. The gun weighed 9 pounds with the second set. For those interested, here's a link with more details on the hunt two weeks ago.

http://foxcollectors.com/My%20Forum/...hp?f=25&t=5129

[Bill Murphy]

At the time I was writing the order for Lamboy, I hadn't seen the Paul Curtis description. It was some years later that I discovered the Curtis order in some research material. Today, I would order the gun with 30" barrels and still under 8 pounds. I liked 28" because it was different for an NID ten. I have had plenty of light tens, even short barreled ones, but Steve was doing such a good job with the ICD that I just had to have one. I remember telling Steve that I would see him at Vegas in a couple of days in one of the late Januarys of the project. As an ICD dealer, my employer and Steve spoke on a fairly regular basis. When I went through the front door of the "Shiny Gun" room at the Riviera, Steve was on my left, holding court with "Magnum, PI" with an order sheet in his hands. The tables were decorated with late production Exhibition ICDs. There was hardly a Grade 4 or 5 to be seen. Today, I have no ICD guns, and I'm down to one high condition NID Mag Ten. I'm always on the prowl for a nice Super, but apparently, Frank has them sewed up.

[Milton Starr]

Didn't some nid have 3 1/2" chambers ?

[Cold Spring]

No ..... at least I've never seen a righteous Super 10 chambered for 3-1/2". The Ithaca Double Magnum was developed for magnum 3-1/2" 10-gauge shells. They will have a serial no > 500,000 and weigh 11 pounds or so. NID Super 10's are numbered in the 400,000's and will have 2-7/8" chambers.

[Milton Starr]

ok thanks for the clarification , I don't know much about ithacas doubles .
I think the double magnum is what sxs ive seen online. pugs has one but its 6,000$ . Ive owned modern 10 ga 3.5" guns . I much prefer the 2 7/8" chambering