calvin thats a good question. the shells im shooting are 00 buckshot. it is a 3 1/4 inch winchester shell with roll crimp best i can count 24 00 pellets to load with buffer added.i do not know the powder charge. tom armbrust loaded these for me .he said i was the only person to ever ask for buckshot loads in the 8 gauge. the loads shoot very well ive tested them at various ranges. with mydestery hoffard 8 ga fa loomis it patterns well enough out to 80 yards . it will put 7 to 11 pellets intoa deer size target at this range.i like to keep the distance shorter but i would not hesitate to shoot at this distance. the parker bro. 8 ga i will only shoot to a distance of 40 yards the barrels have been shorted to 26 inches on it. thus no choke left .hope to get to use this load this evening. charlie
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