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I have a 24 Ga. Drilling ,24 X 24 ,Over 8.57R X 360 ! I Buy 24 Ga. from Fiocchi ! Thanks to Edgar S. and the help of His German Gunsmith ,we figured out the caliber and I had RCBS make me a custom set of Dies ,and she will shoot 1/2 " Groups all day long at 60 Yards !