Have I got it correct on damascus grades???

[Dean Romig]

DD was not the designation of Fine Damascus but rather, Extra Fine Damascus and even Finest Damascus. Per Mark's post DD Damascus barrels are not normally found on Grade 4 and lower.

[Eldon Goddard]

Mr. Hause keep them coming. I wish I could talk to you in person about Damascus steel. I have been trying to model 3 iron Damascus on the computer but takes a lot of head scratching figuring out where the pattern comes from. I believe the swirls result from flattening out the twisted iron rods. I assume that the helix of the twisted rods would turn into swirls when the rods are pounded out flat.

[Drew Hause]

Eldon: after John Blaze abandoned the effort at Parker Bros. c. 1880, to my knowledge no one in the U.S. has made crolle Damascus shotgun barrels until Steve Culver www.culverart.com did so in 2012 . Check out
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...DME9lB0JM/edit

He has been working with computer graphic design programs in the other direction; from the finished barrel back to the lopin, in order to show how the lopin was 'stacked' or 'piled'
See http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/24317402

This is a Parker 3 Iron Bernard II barrel with the end of the ribband segment where it was folded over as it was added to the barrel, and shows the pattern of the lopin

[ddp]

thanks for that Drew,
looks very time consuming...must of been some very big hammer forges for barrels of 30 inches or more. watching that , i can't imagine 6 or 8 blade.

ddp

[Dean Romig]

Drew, do you have any pictures of John Blaze barrels or any documented serial numbers of such Parkers?

There are records of Parker Bros. having produced a small number of composite barrels... do you have information on exactly what they were in regard to whether they were Twist, Laminated, or crolle Damascus.... or possibly all or some of these?

[Craig Larter]

OK so is this 3 iron crolle or 4 iron crolle, I see three full bands and two 1/2 bans next to the weld lines. Thanks Craig

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

3 full plus 2 x 1/2 = 4 That is a great example!

[Craig Larter]

OK help me with these two examples?? First one looks like 1 full band and two 1/2 bands. It is really hard for me pick out the weld band.
The second one looks like 5 full bands and two 1/2 bands??

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Craig,

Yes, you got those band counts correct! The 6 band is hard to see so I blew it up to 400%!

Mark

[Dean Romig]

Craig, the 6-band barrels should have the DD stamp on the right barrel flat.

Is that your BH?