for discussion

[chris dawe]

I killed a snipe at around (what my brother considered at the time) 100 yards .One # 4 pellet in the back of his noggin from a full choke H&R single .It's not something I would even entertain now ,but being around 15 at the time I thought I was a real pro .


I can remember my brother yelling at me "It's too far ,stop wasting shell's !" and down he went

[Drew Hause]

Please watch for the article in the Spring Double Gun Journal about the Smith Long Range Wild Fowl, with actual pattern testing at 82 yards by David Williamson. The BEST pattern showed less than 1% of the pellets on target.
Being a victim of a public education in the great state of Missouri, I would respectfully request those claiming 80 yard kills (and not where the bird landed) to "Show Me" the pattern, unless the gun is a Woolwich



And yes, I witnessed a buddy kill a big Sage Grouse in WY at 50 yards with a single pellet in the head (I cleaned the bird). Unfortunately, thereafter he shot at every 50 yard bird, cleanly killed none, and likely left a number to die a bad death out in the field with a single pellet in the chest or gut