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Great info on the 8 gauges. Just one more reason to love Parkers. Went out and shot my 10 gauge this morning. It is not fine gun but a japanese BPS 10, had to test it out after installing a new recoil pad. It just plain fun to shoot now. Just makes me wonder the kind of wallop the old 8 packs, with that 3 oz round ball Charlie is loading, it must be a blast.