Who is the Winchester engraver?? Help

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Francis, no need to criticize posters who do not know. Internet readers know how to separate the wheat from the chaff, just from reading an entire thread rather than the single post of a self proclaimed "authority". This will be my last reply to you until further notice.

promises, promises, promises. I haven't been a Winchester guy since third grade, got my first Winchester at age 11- 20 gauge M12. I also have Dave Riffle's book, the Madis book, the Stadt book and tons of other now op WRA: catalogues, reference books, salesman's handbooks, etc-

Granted, this is a Parker forum, and not the Winchester Model 1912 and Model 12 Collectors Assn. Forum-BUT- a member who has a very fine Model 1912 Black Diamond Pigeon Grade posts a legitimate question that can be answered by some research- why should anyone demean his "Perfect Repeater", vis a vis the "Yaka-saki' inference. I won a Japanese Browning Model 12 "repro" 20 gauge- 28" mod. fioxed choke, ventilated rib at a DU Sponsor event, many years ago- I sold it back to Jay Poet in Clare, the supplier to the DU Event Cmte- I never even took it out of the box- It was a Model 12 like a Trojan grade is an AAHE--only by commonality of nomenclature- And none of the tools in my Kennedy and Gerstner tool chests were made in the land of the "Rising Sun' either-

I may not know Model 1912's and Model 12's as well as all other gentlemen on the PGCA, but I will bet you a "steel trap" from brother Dean Romig that I know them better that the majority of them. This M1912 is the "real deal" and to insult it with a 'after market Japanese re-do' is an Infamita!!