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the gent in the uk does indeed have the round ball mold for the 8 gauge...all ive got todo tommorrow is measure the bore and get intouch with the maker...this was a answer to my prays thanks for the info fellas...this gent makes about any sizeround ball or cannon ball a person needs..if i get every thing in high gear i should be able to have a round ball load to be able to hunt with soon....thanks charlie