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ithe 3 inch guns in my opinion with 3 inch load of 1 5/8 of no 5 shot will pattern 3 to 5 hits on average in a mallard duck....i have shot at a dr pepper can at 70 steps many times with the 1 5/8 ounce loads of no 5 lead shot...it will put on average 5 to 8 hits in the can....i do believe these guns could do the 80 yard shot on big ducks with lead shot with no 4 or 5 lead shot with a full choke gun.....charlie